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Re: Yixing

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 12:25 pm
by Chadrinkincat
Mark-S wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 5:04 am
What do you think of this pot? It's too small / expensive for me but it's kind of interesting.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/193461339875
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Re: Yixing

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 12:31 pm
by .m.
@Chadrinkincat OMG, good eye! I knew that pot was way too small. :lol: Nice to know it is in good hands.

Re: Yixing

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 2:10 pm
by Teachronicles
@Chadrinkincat what a nice color and texture, once cleaned. Haha that is a bit absurdly small tho...

@TeaTotaling

Re: Yixing

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 2:14 pm
by Mark-S
Bok wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 10:32 am
You can think all you want, the physics don’t care and know better. ;)
:lol: Maybe I'll do a comparison some time to see how big the difference really is.

@Chadrinkincat
11.6ml :shock: Even smaller than I thought

Re: Yixing

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 2:26 pm
by DailyTX
Chadrinkincat wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 12:25 pm
Mark-S wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 5:04 am
What do you think of this pot? It's too small / expensive for me but it's kind of interesting.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/193461339875
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@Chadrinkincat
The clay looks so soft. Very interesting :o

Re: Yixing

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 2:33 pm
by .m.
Teachronicles wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 2:10 pm
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Nice. :D Anybody knows the time span when the Nan Mengchen seal was used? Was it used only before the Cultural Revolution or did it appear later in the 60's as well?

Re: Yixing

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 2:40 pm
by TeaTotaling
@Teachronicles Thanks! Mine does appear to be different, I'll have to do further research to learn more. Have you researched the inscriptions on yours?

Re: Yixing

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 2:54 pm
by Teachronicles
TeaTotaling wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 2:40 pm
Teachronicles Thanks! Mine does appear to be different, I'll have to do further research to learn more. Have you researched the inscriptions on yours?
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Not much more than a pot collector friend has told me that the seal is more common in the early to mid 60s. Your seal there I believe is even earlier, 58 to early 60s. Quite a nice pot. Was this from ZAG as well? Was it on their site? I don't remember seeing it.

Re: Yixing

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 3:02 pm
by TeaTotaling
@Teachronicles Understood. Well that's good to know, I'll dig a little bit further to see if I can find out more. It is from them, it was on the second page of the Early Pot section, second row. I'm really looking forward to receiving it.

Re: Yixing

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 3:02 pm
by steanze
.m. wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 2:33 pm
Teachronicles wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 2:10 pm
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Nice. :D Anybody knows the time span when the Nan Mengchen seal was used? Was it used only before the Cultural Revolution or did it appear later in the 60's as well?
Usually early to mid 60s. In later 60s it's more common to see the 4 character Zhongguo Yixing seal.

Re: Yixing

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 3:03 pm
by steanze
TeaTotaling wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 2:40 pm
Teachronicles Thanks! Mine does appear to be different, I'll have to do further research to learn more. Have you researched the inscriptions on yours?
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This one is a hui meng chen seal. The other one is a nan meng chen seal. The nan meng chen seal is a bit rarer.

Re: Yixing

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 3:29 pm
by TeaTotaling
steanze wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 3:03 pm
TeaTotaling wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 2:40 pm
Teachronicles Thanks! Mine does appear to be different, I'll have to do further research to learn more. Have you researched the inscriptions on yours?
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This one is a hui meng chen seal. The other one is a nan meng chen seal. The nan meng chen seal is a bit rarer.
Thanks @steanze! Was Hui Meng Chen common in the late 50's, early 60's? From the pictures, the colors of the clay look noticeably different as well. Were both of these coming from the same workshop?

Re: Yixing

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 3:38 pm
by steanze
TeaTotaling wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 3:29 pm

Thanks steanze! Was Hui Meng Chen common in the late 50's, early 60's? From the pictures, the colors of the clay look noticeably different as well. Were both of these coming from the same workshop?
Yes, hui meng chen was the most common seal in that period. The clay color difference should just be lighting or staining. If not, yours looks right, the other one looks a bit too dark. F1 hongni pots from that period use the same batch of clay, a few are a bit finer ("fen tai"), but pretty similar

Re: Yixing

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 4:11 pm
by Teachronicles
steanze wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 3:38 pm
TeaTotaling wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 3:29 pm

Thanks steanze! Was Hui Meng Chen common in the late 50's, early 60's? From the pictures, the colors of the clay look noticeably different as well. Were both of these coming from the same workshop?
Yes, hui meng chen was the most common seal in that period. The clay color difference should just be lighting or staining. If not, yours looks right, the other one looks a bit too dark. F1 hongni pots from that period use the same batch of clay, a few are a bit finer ("fen tai"), but pretty similar
The bottom of my pot is a bit dirty, so probably staining, and also lighting. By finer do you mean the mesh number/how finely the clay is sieved during processing?

Re: Yixing

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 4:18 pm
by steanze
Teachronicles wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 4:11 pm

The bottom of my pot is a bit dirty, so probably staining, and also lighting. By finer do you mean the mesh number/how finely the clay is sieved during processing?
I can only see the finished result, the grain of clay is finer on those pots. But yes, finer mesh is likely to be the cause.