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Re: Yixing
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:30 pm
by Chadrinkincat
@steanze
Do you have any pictures of your 60-70’s zini pots?
A zini pot from this era is at the top of my list for F1 pots. Although I’ve yet to come across one for sale other than one that kyarazen sold awhile back.
Re: Yixing
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:31 pm
by Chadrinkincat
Youzi wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:05 am
Chadrinkincat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:22 am
Youzi wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:17 am
Mark-S
I have one JDTF pot. It's quite old school style. Like 90s pots. But their construction is much better than F1 or other 90s 00s productions.
It's a modern option for those who like like they charm of older pots, while have a good fitting lid and straight lines.
Old school style?
I'd say as an alternative to 80s 90s F1.
Old school style as that its not the modern shiny smooth look everyone is going for.
Ah makes sense.
Re: Yixing
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:41 pm
by Mark-S
Chadrinkincat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:30 pm
steanze
Do you have any pictures of your 60-70’s zini pots?
Yes, a close up of the clay would be great.
Re: Yixing
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:08 pm
by steanze
Unfortunately covid19 separated me from my camera, and it is night now so I don't have great lighting. I tried my best with my phone's camera. This is an early 1970s jiazini side handle gezui:
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Re: Yixing
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:12 pm
by OCTO
steanze wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:08 pm
Unfortunately covid19 separated me from my camera, and it is night now so I don't have great lighting. I tried my best with my phone's camera. This is an early 1970s jiazini side handle gezui:
yummy.... hahahaha...
Re: Yixing
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:13 pm
by steanze
OCTO wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:12 pm
yummy.... hahahaha...
the 1960s rear handle ones are even prettier, but they cost as much as lao zhuni these days...
Re: Yixing
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:20 pm
by OCTO
@steanze
Do allow me to chip in....
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Not really the best lighting... rather soft but sufficient lighting to see the clay character.
Cheers!
Re: Yixing
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:21 pm
by OCTO
steanze wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:13 pm
OCTO wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:12 pm
yummy.... hahahaha...
the 1960s rear handle ones are even prettier, but they cost as much as lao zhuni these days...
Good and authentic stuff don't come cheap.
Re: Yixing
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:27 pm
by steanze
OCTO wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:20 pm
steanze
Do allow me to chip in....
Not really the best lighting... rather soft but sufficient lighting to see the clay character.
Cheers!
Nice pot! Exceptionally well-made spout on this one, good find!
Re: Yixing
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:34 pm
by OCTO
steanze wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:27 pm
Nice pot! Exceptionally well-made spout on this one, good find!
Arigato sensei...
Re: Yixing
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:42 pm
by Mafaldine
steanze wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:55 pm
Mark-S wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:19 pm
steanze
What about Zini from this era?
Zini from the 90s is hit or miss, need to evaluate case by case. From the 80s is better. From green label or earlier even better. The best F1 zini imo is the 60s-early 70s jiazini, but it is not very cheap...
There is also good post 2000s zini, it just becomes more difficult to evaluate and you need to look case by case with a fair amount of experience.
Is green label qingshuini also good? As like, a subset of zini.
Re: Yixing
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:43 pm
by steanze
Mafaldine wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:42 pm
Is green label qingshuini also good? As like, a subset of zini.
Yes, in my view green label qingshuini is also very good. But the 1960s benshan zini and 1960s-early 70s jia zini are superior.
Re: Yixing
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:00 pm
by Mafaldine
Haha, I'll take what I can get then!
Re: Yixing
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:00 pm
by steanze
Mafaldine wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:42 pm
Is green label qingshuini also good? As like, a subset of zini.
Left: jiazini, right: qingshuini. Bear with my camera and lighting...
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Re: Yixing
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:04 pm
by steanze
Mafaldine wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:00 pm
Haha, I'll take what I can get then!
For making tea, the difference is very small. Much is also about aesthetics, patina development, ... for tea performance, I would not worry too much about the difference. Jiazini tends to preserve a bit more nuances in my experience, but it is a very small difference.
