Sorry, didn't want to turn it into a "real-or-fake" post, but I guess that it's necessary here.
Colours are hard to get right today; bright, overcast, constantly changing.
Andrew
Yixing
Looks <superficially> right to me. At least I can’t see any clear evidence to the contrary with the pictures at hand.
If right, this looks a bit Mid-Qing-ey to me. But can’t be sure without more images.
Possibly, but the lid makes a high-pitched sound when I put it on (though I assume that that's not determinative of anything). It could just be the photos, though the inside-top of the lid does look a bit lighter-coloured.
It's been excellent with yancha and old liu an (which I know you'd say is a sacrilege), but I haven't tried any lightly-roasted tea in it yet.
And yes, mid-Qing is exactly how it was described, so if that were to be correct, then those sunbeams would have been around since at least then.
Andrew
@Andrew S
Not expert in this era (Mid-Qing), but your photo did not show the character. for example - upper part of lid wall, spout etc...
Not expert in this era (Mid-Qing), but your photo did not show the character. for example - upper part of lid wall, spout etc...
Per @Bok's request 
the new arrival :
A big teapot/kettle - I have a bit of a weak spot for this shape. ROC period, i think, based on the seal, which is smudged and placed sideways on the pot, but should be more-or-less the same as the one in the last picture. From what i've seen, late Qing versions also tend to be marginally nicer in the craftsmanship.
Not sure how one calls this type of red zini: maybe hongqingshuini?
(In the picture with a neiziwaihong biandeng for a color comparison).
the new arrival : A big teapot/kettle - I have a bit of a weak spot for this shape. ROC period, i think, based on the seal, which is smudged and placed sideways on the pot, but should be more-or-less the same as the one in the last picture. From what i've seen, late Qing versions also tend to be marginally nicer in the craftsmanship.
Not sure how one calls this type of red zini: maybe hongqingshuini?
(In the picture with a neiziwaihong biandeng for a color comparison).
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That keeps it simple. Thanks!
Nicer handles on that one!
Otherwise these pots seem relatively common among the yixing ware that was exported to Europe.Yeah pretty common, but most are not really that old, not so sure about yours either… Roc would probably be quite a bit more refined in the details, clay seems a bit off as well, but I might be wrong and it’s the pictures.
Not the same pot style exactly, but at look at how expressive this Qing pot is…
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Wow 
look at that spout! Lovely arcing curve.
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The older ones (Qing?) tends to be nicer in the lines and the details. The craftsmanship on this one is more closer to the F1 kettles from green label period (e.g. the rim of the base), but it is definitely pre-Factory, and i believe also pre-WWII - i don't think there was much export to the west in the 50's.Bok wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:42 amYeah pretty common, but most are not really that old, not so sure about yours either… Roc would probably be quite a bit more refined in the details, clay seems a bit off as well, but I might be wrong and it’s the pictures.
Not the same pot style exactly, but at look at how expressive this Qing pot is…
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Hot diggity, the golden goose egg!! Coming in at almost 7k, if it’s ZAG’s. Sure looks like it, a real Qing beauty 
Wow, yesterday's very bright but very wet weather really threw off my sense of colour... Sorry about that.
Here's its actual colour; more of a crimson goose egg. It's soaking up some warm water before making some Zhang Hui Chun bei dou yancha from EoT for me, to improve another cold, windy, wet day ('cold' being a relative term, obviously).
It's probably going to become my standard old liu an pot. At 80mL, I feel like I'm 'saving' money by not using a bigger pot for such precious old leaves (but yes, I am just trying to justify the cost..). I'm not anywhere good enough to be able to ascertain antique-ness from online photos myself, and certainly not until I have some authentic ones to play with in person, so I just have to be satisfied with prices being what they are.
It is a pleasure to use, though. The lid fit, pour, and overall elegance is much finer than what I'd have imagined to be the case from so long ago (and actually much finer than almost any other pot that I have).
@Bok: I didn't mean to 'test' you, as I'm sure you know, but just feel self-conscious about showing off something from ZAG; and @maple: the reputation of the source was why I didn't have reason to doubt its stated age. I've also seen some photos of very similarly-shaped pots online that are alleged to be mid-Qing. But I rely on the knowledge of others.
Andrew
Here's its actual colour; more of a crimson goose egg. It's soaking up some warm water before making some Zhang Hui Chun bei dou yancha from EoT for me, to improve another cold, windy, wet day ('cold' being a relative term, obviously).
It's probably going to become my standard old liu an pot. At 80mL, I feel like I'm 'saving' money by not using a bigger pot for such precious old leaves (but yes, I am just trying to justify the cost..). I'm not anywhere good enough to be able to ascertain antique-ness from online photos myself, and certainly not until I have some authentic ones to play with in person, so I just have to be satisfied with prices being what they are.
It is a pleasure to use, though. The lid fit, pour, and overall elegance is much finer than what I'd have imagined to be the case from so long ago (and actually much finer than almost any other pot that I have).
@Bok: I didn't mean to 'test' you, as I'm sure you know, but just feel self-conscious about showing off something from ZAG; and @maple: the reputation of the source was why I didn't have reason to doubt its stated age. I've also seen some photos of very similarly-shaped pots online that are alleged to be mid-Qing. But I rely on the knowledge of others.
Andrew
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