Comparing with your pot, the risk was much higher. If authenticity is not a factor, it’s probably worth the price. It went for about 4x the price of your pot, and NZWH pot with 4 holes.Chadrinkincat wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:24 pmThanks! I was eyeing that pot too but I wasn’t willing to bid much due to the no return policy. Hopefully someone else was lucky enough to snag that one, it was the nicer of the two.
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Both pots looked legit to me but I had enough doubts about both that going beyond min bid was too much risk for me. I’d be pretty pissed if I won that other pot and found out it was a $560 replica.
On inspection, I think mine is authentic so I’m glad I actually bid rather than watch it go unsold.
Both pots looked legit to me but I had enough doubts about both that going beyond min bid was too much risk for me. I’d be pretty pissed if I won that other pot and found out it was a $560 replica.
On inspection, I think mine is authentic so I’m glad I actually bid rather than watch it go unsold.
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Both pots looked legit to me but I had enough doubts about both that going beyond min bid was too much risk for me. I’d be pretty pissed if I won that other pot and found out it was a $560 replica.
On inspection, I think mine is authentic so I’m glad I actually bid rather than watch it go unsold.
That was my worry as well. Anything earlier than F1 is probably beyond my comfort zone of going all-in due to limited exposure. Here is a recent pot I pulled, yes another big pot lol. I need to start paying attention to smaller ones
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Sad reality is that most will never find out though… or prefer not to look to closely.
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Some people probably genuinely don’t actually care about if a pot is genuine but for others it is likely about not wanting to feel foolish for buying a fake.
My pockets aren’t very deep so id rather learn
from a failure so that I can avoid repeating the same costly mistakes. Plus I think there is little reason to own 50+ pots if you aren’t interested in the historical aspect.
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Same. I’m far less confident about pre-F1 pots. I’m very much still in the beginning stages of learning.
You love those big pots!
I wish big pots were my thing because those seem to be easier to stumble across compared to the sizes I prefer.
@Chadrinkincat I think you give yourself too little credit… seems your doing pretty well in finding some gems in all the dirt!
Low firing and large size is to be expected with that shape and design. Wasn’t it for the size I’d picked up one of those for myself. Antique Neiziwaihong is quite nice.
Here’s a Fuji one
45ml
Low firing and large size is to be expected with that shape and design. Wasn’t it for the size I’d picked up one of those for myself. Antique Neiziwaihong is quite nice.
Here’s a Fuji one
45ml
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Yeah I have a tendency to not give myself enough credit. I think I’ll feel more confident once I’ve doubled the size of my pre-factory collection. Fortunately, I’m less than a dozen purchases away from meeting this goal.
That pot is beautiful! It is sized just right for heavily roasted yancha.
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I would love to know more about this studio too.
Yeah I have a tendency to not give myself enough credit. I think I’ll feel more confident once I’ve doubled the size of my pre-factory collection. Fortunately, I’m less than a dozen purchases away from meeting this goal.
That pot is beautiful! It is sized just right for heavily roasted yancha.
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I would love to know more about this studio too.
There’s no source in English that I’m aware of and very few paragraphs in Chinese that I can recall, let me see if I can dig them up.Chadrinkincat wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 4:06 pmBok
Yeah I have a tendency to not give myself enough credit. I think I’ll feel more confident once I’ve doubled the size of my pre-factory collection. Fortunately, I’m less than a dozen purchases away from meeting this goal.
That pot is beautiful! It is sized just right for heavily roasted yancha.
Youzi
I would love to know more about this studio too.
Wang Yinchun (王寅春) Came out of that workshop, which explains why F1 also used Neiziwaihong and Neiwailinjiang methods. Fuji was known for using it.
Got my NZWH Yahoo pot yesterday. Clocks in at roughly 85ml with a 16 second pour! Luckily I have been enjoying longer first steeps, so the long pour wont be an issue. Nice wet clay smell, no storage scents. First brew was a spring gaoshan (can’t remember which once, ordered winter, received spring) from Tillerman. I had been having trouble with this tea, but the NZWH brought out the aroma. Flavor and body didn’t change too much, but the aroma was amazing.
While on Yahoo I had also picked up a little 200ml yixing jianshui. Not sure who made it, I just liked it. I brew as dry as possible, so little jianshui are preferred.
And in my years of tea drinking, I finally got my first spout bubble.
While on Yahoo I had also picked up a little 200ml yixing jianshui. Not sure who made it, I just liked it. I brew as dry as possible, so little jianshui are preferred.
And in my years of tea drinking, I finally got my first spout bubble.
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There is some information about the history of Fuji here: https://gucciwou.blogspot.com/2016/04/blog-post_97.html
I would not recommend using the teapot pictures they provide as reference for authentication though....
The jianshui is stamped "tie hua xuan", it's a Yixing workshop active during the Republic of China Period. I am using one of their pots today
Interesting! I found a pot from them that’s bordering on too good to be true. If I can ask, what years did they operate and are they often faked? Because price wise from what I can see in both Japanese and western auctions, they don’t go for crazy prices.
Unfortunately, they are very often faked. The real ones range from not too expensive to fairly expensive depending on whether they're smaller utilitarian pots with simpler shapes (usually not as expensive - several hundred $) or larger pots with the mark of a well known artisan from the period (fairly expensive, a few thousand $).
They operated from the early ROC to the 1950s.
Agreed, those reference look very dodgy indeed!steanze wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:19 amThere is some information about the history of Fuji here: https://gucciwou.blogspot.com/2016/04/blog-post_97.html
I would not recommend using the teapot pictures they provide as reference for authentication though....
Here is another blog entry which has a paragraph about Fuji and others, same caution for imagery applies, although the seal chops itself look authentic:
https://read01.com/MNmeG.html#.YgW2Zd8RUW9