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Sun Apr 30, 2023 9:26 am

steanze wrote:
Sat Apr 29, 2023 5:43 pm
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Sat Apr 29, 2023 4:41 pm
New to me 90s DCQ. Tried it out today with some HK wet storage sheng and it worked out pretty decent, but it's with liu bao where it really shines. Def will be trying to get my hands on more of this clay to compare different firings and production periods - I'm totally sold on it.
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Fun shape! I really like the darker shades of zini.
thanks! the small spout means it doesn't exactly lightning pour. but since it also works well holding the leaf back from the single hole opening and its going to be for LB anyway pour speed isn't a big issue so it works out well.

its very shiny, I'm guessing both that and the color being the result of supposed dragon kiln firing. maybe I'm used to all my heavy nixing pots but it also feels very lightweight.

the effect of the clay is really nice - not really muting like my green label QSN, it seems quite neutral compared to a lot of my pots but with a nice little push right in the sweet spot for fermented teas. I also feel like I can taste more complexity/change in the tea brew to brew than my other zini, including even in lower grade teas that are tasty but not exactly full of nuance.
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Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:17 am

czarzly wrote:
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Thank you for replying and the information!
You are welcome!
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Looks like a modern pot.
+1. A modern imitation.
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Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:25 am

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thanks! the small spout means it doesn't exactly lightning pour. but since it also works well holding the leaf back from the single hole opening and its going to be for LB anyway pour speed isn't a big issue so it works out well.

its very shiny, I'm guessing both that and the color being the result of supposed dragon kiln firing. maybe I'm used to all my heavy nixing pots but it also feels very lightweight.

the effect of the clay is really nice - not really muting like my green label QSN, it seems quite neutral compared to a lot of my pots but with a nice little push right in the sweet spot for fermented teas. I also feel like I can taste more complexity/change in the tea brew to brew than my other zini, including even in lower grade teas that are tasty but not exactly full of nuance.
I agree, pour speed won't be an issue if you are making LB or aged puerh, you can just adjust a bit the amount of leaf if needed. It would only matter if you wanted to make oolong following CZ gongfu and you needed very short and precise timings.

I would be skeptical of the dragon kiln firing claim. It was very uncommon in the 90s, and that shine and color can happen also without dragon kiln firing. Regardless, the clay looks quite nice :)
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Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:49 am

The dragon kiln firing claim is from EoT, but I've heard skepticism expressed regarding it from others too.

I have one of these too and it's one of my favorites in terms of overall effect on the teas I brew. Too bad I gravitate more towards the 180+ ml range these days, it's not getting as much attention as it deserves.
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Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:43 pm

Yeah I don't know how much faith I have in that claim either, but no big deal either way since what matters to me is how it brews in the end. I do wonder if the darker color is that blend/batch of ore or from the firing temp - its so much darker and more brown that modern DCQ I've seen, but my selection is pretty small.

@Balthazar if you ever let it go you know who to call ;)
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Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:58 pm

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Yeah I don't know how much faith I have in that claim either, but no big deal either way since what matters to me is how it brews in the end. I do wonder if the darker color is that blend/batch of ore or from the firing temp - its so much darker and more brown that modern DCQ I've seen, but my selection is pretty small.
I believe the clays are from different mines. Most modern DCQ pots, if indeed is DCQ, are from mine #5. If EOT’s claim is true, the clay used to craft your pot maybe from mine #4.
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Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:11 pm

Balthazar wrote:
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The dragon kiln firing claim is from EoT, but I've heard skepticism expressed regarding it from others too.

I have one of these too and it's one of my favorites in terms of overall effect on the teas I brew. Too bad I gravitate more towards the 180+ ml range these days, it's not getting as much attention as it deserves.
I see, I wasn't aware of this, EoT is a well reputed vendor so it might be.
The 180+ ml sizes are really nice for LB and aged sheng, the greater heat retention helps to get good extraction.
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steanze wrote:
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The 180+ ml sizes are really nice for LB and aged sheng, the greater heat retention helps to get good extraction.
Agreed, I am coming to the same conclusion for aged sheng, even the stuff with barely 10-15 years behind it (provided the base material is good).

And noted @wave_code, though I think it's highly likely that I'll return to brewing more in smaller vessels at some point down the line (perhaps once the little one has moved out, so hopefully by 2050 :mrgreen: ).
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steanze wrote:
Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:17 am
Bok wrote:
Sun Apr 30, 2023 9:05 am

Looks like a modern pot.
+1. A modern imitation.
Is it any good otherwise?
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Is it any good otherwise?
It looks like ok modern hongni. Try to do compare how it brews to a porcelain gaiwan to evaluate what it does to tea. I suggest to try the same tea a couple of times so that you can separate variation between sessions from the effect of the pot.
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I'll be playing with a new little friend today.

(whenever big pots get mentioned around here, the small-pot-clan has to respond...)

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Andrew S wrote:
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I'll be playing with a new little friend today.

(whenever big pots get mentioned around here, the small-pot-clan has to respond...)

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Wonderful pot! I'll join ya with mine :) Hearsay has it this kind of shapes are recently quite in demand...
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Tue May 02, 2023 7:22 pm

Don't you hate it when the zhuni is just too good and the pot comes out of the kiln with 20ml
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Tue May 02, 2023 7:34 pm

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Don't you hate it when the zhuni is just too good and the pot comes out of the kiln with 20ml
:lol:

Luckily this potter had a better eye and it stayed at 60+ml – goldilocks!
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