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enjoi
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Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:08 am

Got a new/old teapot - made by Gu Jingzhou regarding the bottom seal? Guess it's a fake, but who knows?
Would be glad if some experts can tell me more about it. Thank you!
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At least from the seals it looks similar like this one: http://www.chengxuan.com/antiques/99546/
Maybe helotea is intersted in it?
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Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:26 am

Don't know enough about how the clay should look, but seems to me the knob is different/wider in his pots of this style, the top of the handle is never wider than the base of the spout (which also has different proportions), the stamp is also much more evenly applied (or is it an inscription in the originals?). See e,g, https://kknews.cc/zh-sg/collect/3b6rrga.html, https://www.puercn.com/z/1950978/. So my (very uneducated) guess is "obvious fake". Let's see what the educated opinion is :mrgreen:.
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Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:01 am

enjoi wrote:
Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:08 am
Got a new/old teapot - made by Gu Jingzhou regarding the bottom seal? Guess it's a fake, but who knows?
Would be glad if some experts can tell me more about it. Thank you!


At least from the seals it looks similar like this one: http://www.chengxuan.com/antiques/99546/
Maybe helotea is intersted in it?
Looks like helotea material (modern replica) ;) the clay itself is not terrible though, looks like regular modern zini. So on second thought, maybe helotea doesn't want it, the clay is a bit too good.
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Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:04 am

teatray wrote:
Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:26 am
Don't know enough about how the clay should look, but seems to me the knob is different/wider in his pots of this style, the top of the handle is never wider than the base of the spout (which also has different proportions), the stamp is also much more evenly applied (or is it an inscription in the originals?). See e,g, https://kknews.cc/zh-sg/collect/3b6rrga.html, https://www.puercn.com/z/1950978/. So my (very uneducated) guess is "obvious fake". Let's see what the educated opinion is :mrgreen:.
good observations. Look at that gorgeous spout and handle on the one on kknews!
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Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:30 pm

steanze wrote:
Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:01 am
enjoi wrote:
Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:08 am
Got a new/old teapot - made by Gu Jingzhou regarding the bottom seal? Guess it's a fake, but who knows?
Would be glad if some experts can tell me more about it. Thank you!


At least from the seals it looks similar like this one: http://www.chengxuan.com/antiques/99546/
Maybe helotea is intersted in it?
Looks like helotea material (modern replica) ;) the clay itself is not terrible though, looks like regular modern zini. So on second thought, maybe helotea doesn't want it, the clay is a bit too good.
😂
Btw did you see the FB gongfucha post discussing all his DMing? Guess that is why he has been so quiet here.
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Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:04 pm

Chadrinkincat wrote:
Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:30 pm

😂
Btw did you see the FB gongfucha post discussing all his DMing? Guess that is why he has been so quiet here.
Oh I did not see that... we need to thank them for keeping him busy :)
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Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:30 am

Got a new/old teapot - should be a F1 pre '77 Bale 95ml. Hope some of the experts can confirm. Thank you!

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Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:04 am

enjoi wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:30 am
Got a new/old teapot - should be a F1 pre '77 Bale 95ml. Hope some of the experts can confirm. Thank you!


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Is it unused/cleaned? Tiny bit concerned about the sheen of the clay.
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Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:20 am

Not yet cleaned - received it like that (was little used i guess).
Would you suggest cleaning it with sodium bicarbonate or sodium percarbonate?

Also another picture with different light
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Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:41 am

enjoi wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:20 am
Not yet cleaned - received it like that (was little used i guess).
Would you suggest cleaning it with sodium bicarbonate or sodium percarbonate?

Also another picture with different light
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Yeah I’d clean it first and see then.
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Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:43 am

What would you suggest for cleaning? Sodium bicarbonate, because its not that dirty?

More pictures with two pre '77 F1 Shui ping as reference (and another camera used).

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Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:52 am

@enjoi
Sodium bicarbonate will reset the pot. If the sheen is result of tea oil, it should be sufficient to remove it. Make sure you soak your pot at least 24 hours before cleaning to prevent thermal shock.
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Sun Mar 13, 2022 4:12 am

@DailyTX Thanks! Cleaned it with sodium bicarbonate (and also the two other F1s)
@Bok It's interessting how different a teapot can look like on various pictures, but it looks less shiny after cleaning.

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Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:27 am

@enjoi Nice pots!
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Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:02 am

Hi, as my first post on this forum I would like to share my favorite Yixing with you.
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