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Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:13 am

nice pot @Andrew S - I love these prunus pots. I've become kind of fixated on them over the last year, still just waiting for the right one to find its way to me some day. Yours looks like it is in great condition - I feel like these always have flowers or branches chipped off. I also see duanni ones much less often, and I don't know that I've seen a duanni one at all that doesn't have enameling - it looks fantastic this way.

for those who know these pots better - was this style ever replicated later on at all? While I've seen some that are reproductions they have always been really obvious and bad- your typical overly shiny plastic clay in some sort of toxic looking coloration. But I don't know if this shape was continued very much after ROC periods or not. Bad fakes aside I feel like I've seen a good amount of variation in the color of the clay on prunus pots, but I always figured this had to do with inconsistencies in clay blending and firing that would be more likely at that time, but if these were reproduced or continued to be produced until later that would also explain things and it would be nice to be able to tell the difference.
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Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:19 am

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Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:26 am

I hear the mention of the BIG POT CLAN!!... hahahahaha... welcome to the clan!..... as mentioned by steanze you can always be on both.... hahahahaha....

psssst.... there's always a beauty in larger "landscaping surfaces"...... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Cheers!!
Yes, larger teapot sizes sometimes give more space to the craftsman to curate some details - not just decorations, but also things like the change in the cross-section of the handle and the spout...
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Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:21 am

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for those who know these pots better - was this style ever replicated later on at all? While I've seen some that are reproductions they have always been really obvious and bad- your typical overly shiny plastic clay in some sort of toxic looking coloration. But I don't know if this shape was continued very much after ROC periods or not. Bad fakes aside I feel like I've seen a good amount of variation in the color of the clay on prunus pots, but I always figured this had to do with inconsistencies in clay blending and firing that would be more likely at that time, but if these were reproduced or continued to be produced until later that would also explain things and it would be nice to be able to tell the difference.
There are some modern ones, the quality varies... there were some related styles in F1 period (like the "three friends of winter" pots) but not quite the same.
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Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:35 am

steanze wrote:
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Yes, larger teapot sizes sometimes give more space to the craftsman to curate some details - not just decorations, but also things like the change in the cross-section of the handle and the spout...

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Beautiful curves 😍. Got time to show the whole TiLiang pot?
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This shows the cross-section along the spout in a way that facilitates comparison between different parts. It would be hard to make these types of changes on very small pots.
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Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:47 am

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Beautiful curves 😍. Got time to show the whole TiLiang pot?
of course :)
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I have no luck finding info on F1 large persimmon pots with this type of lid.
The lid style is pretty common. Your pot could be from F1 in my opinion. I've got a confirmed one with a similar lid but with different clay (not coated). My teapot looks like the last one.









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Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:29 pm

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Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:43 am
DailyTX wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:01 pm
I have no luck finding info on F1 large persimmon pots with this type of lid.
The lid style is pretty common. Your pot could be from F1 in my opinion. I've got a confirmed one with a similar lid but with different clay (not coated). My teapot looks like the last one.









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It’s good to see you are still active. Thanks for the examples of this type of persimmon lid. Have you collected any new pots lately?
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@DailyTX

Yes, I'm still active :) and I've acquired some pots lately. But I'm still in the process of cleaning them. This is the newest pot. It's from 1960.
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Fri Jan 07, 2022 4:04 pm

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DailyTX

Yes, I'm still active :) and I've acquired some pots lately. But I'm still in the process of cleaning them. This is the newest pot. It's from 1960.
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ShiDeng pot haha post some photos when you are done cleaning :)
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ShiDeng pot haha post some photos when you are done cleaning :)
You are right, it's a Gao Shi Deng pot. ;) Maybe I'll post another pot first. But I have to wait for a clear sky. It's very dark outside this time of year.
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The lid style is pretty common. Your pot could be from F1 in my opinion. I've got a confirmed one with a similar lid but with different clay (not coated). My teapot looks like the last one.









The workmanship of the first one posted by vintage_hifi_teapot_collector(the yellow one) is very good. The curvature and lines on the spout, handle and lid knob are on point.
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Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:51 am

@steanze I asked him once for more photos of a specific teapot and he replied immediately. Very nice guy :D Not trying to hurt anybody's feelings :lol: ... but in my opinion, his collection is the best you can find on the Internet. He's got many very beautiful pieces in his collection.
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Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:16 pm

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steanze I asked him once for more photos of a specific teapot and he replied immediately. Very nice guy :D Not trying to hurt anybody's feelings :lol: ... but in my opinion, his collection is the best you can find on the Internet. He's got many very beautiful pieces in his collection.
Hey @Mark-S are the two pots posted by vintage_hifi_teapot_collector also from F1? Out of all the pots on that list, those 2 pots he has look somewhat unique. Here is my other persimmon pot that has a different lid. The mold made spout was not very clean on the inside, so the water comes out with a swirl pattern.
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Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:31 pm

@DailyTX

I am not sure about the DuanNi pot, but I don't think they are from F1.

I've also got a similar pot to this one. :) I don't know if you remember it.

Another one: https://ching158.pixnet.net/blog/post/1 ... 宗一廠-早期-海棠壺 (not from the 60s in my opinion)
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