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Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:54 pm

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The second antique I got, it’s still one of my favourites after all this time and other pots that have passed my hands since then. Humble perfection in the proportions and a very nice clay…
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I really like the simple elegance of this one, nice pot!
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Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:18 pm

steanze wrote:
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I really like the simple elegance of this one, nice pot!
Thanks!
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Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:46 pm

@Bok: would that pot fall into the xi shi category?

I used to think that the xi shi style was the style that I liked the least, being inelegant, 'over the top' and vulgar, but antique examples like this one just prove that I've been unfairly harsh on the category as a whole. The old ones don't have much in common with many of the cheap modern ones that you see on the internet. Even the utilitarian F1 versions look much better than those.

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Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:44 pm

Andrew S wrote:
Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:46 pm
Bok: would that pot fall into the xi shi category?

I used to think that the xi shi style was the style that I liked the least, being inelegant, 'over the top' and vulgar, but antique examples like this one just prove that I've been unfairly harsh on the category as a whole. The old ones don't have much in common with many of the cheap modern ones that you see on the internet. Even the utilitarian F1 versions look much better than those.

Andrew
that would usually be called a Ju Lun Zhu... but there are beautiful Xi Shi in LQER. This is an example of the usual style of Xi Shi at the time (not mine):


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Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:52 pm

@steanze: thanks, always nice to see elegant old pots.

Ju Lun Zhu is another category that confuses me; I keep assuming that it is limited to those potter's wheel flat lid styles, but obviously there is much more to them than that.

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Sat Jan 01, 2022 12:53 am

Benshan Lüni to greet the new year… voluptuous and sensual as an Asian pomelo…
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Sat Jan 01, 2022 1:00 am

Bok wrote:
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Benshan Lüni to greet the new year… voluptuous and sensual as an Asian pomelo…
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Bok wrote:
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Benshan Lüni to greet the new year… voluptuous and sensual as an Asian pomelo…
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@Bok
Lovely pomelo haha. ROC clay?
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DailyTX wrote:
Sat Jan 01, 2022 11:19 am
Bok wrote:
Sat Jan 01, 2022 12:53 am
Benshan Lüni to greet the new year… voluptuous and sensual as an Asian pomelo…
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Lovely pomelo haha. ROC clay?
Nope. Quite a bit older actually : )
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Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:38 pm

A very interesting persimmon pot to start the new year. This maybe a tuition pot :lol: . The vintage and modern versions of the 2 color persimmon pots typically use 2 different colors of clay. Like this one:
https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/23416/lot/8131/
This big guy (estimated 300 ml) has what appears to be zini base clay, and the body is coated with a red clay. The spout and handle show the zini slowly fading into the body. There's no sign of sanding on the spout and handle. The craftsmanship from the inside looks like molded. I couldn't find this style in the F1 catalogues online. Anyone seen something similar?
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Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:25 am

Hello!

I was scouring in the internet for some Yixing until I found this. Could you tell me whether this is a real Yixing? My gut feeling is that it is too good to be true. But I want to know your opinions before buying it.

I think the clay is smooth? But I don't know, since some pots I saw in MarshalN have smoother pots. But that's LQER era.

https://www.theartscart.site/detail/741 ... psmmq.html
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Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:33 am

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* Be advised: Yixing expert members will only comment on pots members actually own.
Do you own this pot? In case, please post a picture with a name tag showing your username next to it. Thanks!
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I do not own this pot. Well, I am planning to buy it, but I would rather have the opinion of other so that I minimally avoid tuition pots.
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I do not own this pot. Well, I am planning to buy it, but I would rather have the opinion of other so that I minimally avoid tuition pots.
That's a good goal, but we do have a rule on not commenting on pots that members do not own, because we worry that the thread would become flooded with this type of requests, and we prefer to encourage members to develop their own authentication skills rather than relying on others. My recommendation is to spend a bit longer looking at old posts in this thread and trying to develop an understanding of what teapots from a certain period should look like. Initially, you might want to specialize on understanding one particular period, and branch out later.
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Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:43 am

steanze wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:07 am
Dogen wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:44 am
I do not own this pot. Well, I am planning to buy it, but I would rather have the opinion of other so that I minimally avoid tuition pots.
That's a good goal, but we do have a rule on not commenting on pots that members do not own, because we worry that the thread would become flooded with this type of requests, and we prefer to encourage members to develop their own authentication skills rather than relying on others. My recommendation is to spend a bit longer looking at old posts in this thread and trying to develop an understanding of what teapots from a certain period should look like. Initially, you might want to specialize on understanding one particular period, and branch out later.
I understand. It might get too cumbersome if the thread is full of authentication posts. Thank you for the suggestion!
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