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Andrew S wrote:
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What about flat pot clan?
Nice start to the flat-pot-clan / flying saucer pot clan...

Sadly, I've only got one prospective member of the clan to keep yours company.

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Nice one! Basically two lines exist of these, plain and with various calligraphies and or carvings.
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Hello! First post! I recently came into possession of a number of old-looking teapots, and I'd like some advice for cleaning/care/usage of these pieces. The older-looking one in particular has enamel patterns on it which brings up lead/heavy metals as a worry. I also have a Staffordshire redware teapot from the 1700s I'll post about in another forum. Should I soak with baking soda and scrub before usage?

RE details from cursory googling: apparently the brass handled one is called a 'yang tong' and my mother was able to translate the bottom stamp on it as 'yixing purple sand' but I suppose that's easy enough to fake. No idea about the enameled piece.
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This one is one of my all time favourites… 44ml, often used, it’s gathered a rather nice glow.
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Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:49 am

Bok wrote:
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What about flat pot clan?
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Flat Pot reporting for role call... hehehehe...

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Flat Pot reporting for role call... hehehehe...


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Oh wow! That’s even flatter!


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@WhisperingFrog192 Nice old pots (*i'm talking about the square one, the round i'm not sure...). Thanks for sharing!
For cleaning check this thread viewtopic.php?f=77&t=612.
The best is sodium percarbonate, but soaking in baking soda and/or hydrogen peroxide also helps.
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.m. wrote:
Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:22 pm
WhisperingFrog192 Nice old pots (*i'm talking about the square one, the round i'm not sure...). Thanks for sharing!
For cleaning check this thread viewtopic.php?f=77&t=612.
The best is sodium percarbonate, but soaking in baking soda and/or hydrogen peroxide also helps.
My dear mother managed to transcribe the characters on the lid of the round pot as 陳亞茶 which appears to be a no-name artist as far as I can tell. No idea about the enameled one. Character on the bottom appears very stylized.

I looked around for sodium percarbonate around my local janitorial supply shops but they only carry oxiclean. Probably going to order off Amazon, but it was worth a shot!
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@WhisperingFrog192
The artist name on the round pot is 陳亞芬
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Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:47 pm

WhisperingFrog192 wrote:
Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:57 pm
.m. wrote:
Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:22 pm
WhisperingFrog192 Nice old pots (*i'm talking about the square one, the round i'm not sure...). Thanks for sharing!
For cleaning check this thread viewtopic.php?f=77&t=612.
The best is sodium percarbonate, but soaking in baking soda and/or hydrogen peroxide also helps.
My dear mother managed to transcribe the characters on the lid of the round pot as 陳亞茶 which appears to be a no-name artist as far as I can tell. No idea about the enameled one. Character on the bottom appears very stylized.

I looked around for sodium percarbonate around my local janitorial supply shops but they only carry oxiclean. Probably going to order off Amazon, but it was worth a shot!
I haven’t researched using sodium percarbonate on colorfully painted yixing. Has anyone used it on those pots? Submerging the whole pot in the hot solution I’d be a little wary of, unless someone has found it to be successfully. There was a conversation about cleaning these painted pots some time ago but I can’t find it now. Also, the outside of those painted pots look pretty clean, maybe just clean the inside with sodium percarbonate hot solution.
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WhisperingFrog192
The artist name on the round pot is 陳亞芬
https://www.fangshapot.com/27643.html ?
Makes me lean towards the possibility it could be a fake, given the relatively high-profile name (though it could be someone else named 陳亞芬 as well), the lack of typical mold-pressed tool marks (albeit I'm too unfamiliar with this style of teapot to say) and the off-center bottom stamp. But I don't know enough for certain.
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Thu Nov 10, 2022 3:18 am

Victoria wrote:
Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:47 pm
WhisperingFrog192 wrote:
Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:57 pm
.m. wrote:
Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:22 pm
WhisperingFrog192 Nice old pots (*i'm talking about the square one, the round i'm not sure...). Thanks for sharing!
For cleaning check this thread viewtopic.php?f=77&t=612.
The best is sodium percarbonate, but soaking in baking soda and/or hydrogen peroxide also helps.
My dear mother managed to transcribe the characters on the lid of the round pot as 陳亞茶 which appears to be a no-name artist as far as I can tell. No idea about the enameled one. Character on the bottom appears very stylized.

I looked around for sodium percarbonate around my local janitorial supply shops but they only carry oxiclean. Probably going to order off Amazon, but it was worth a shot!
I haven’t researched using sodium percarbonate on colorfully painted yixing. Has anyone used it on those pots? Submerging the whole pot in the hot solution I’d be a little wary of, unless someone has found it to be successfully. There was a conversation about cleaning these painted pots some time ago but I can’t find it now. Also, the outside of those painted pots look pretty clean, maybe just clean the inside with sodium percarbonate hot solution.
Yeah, it's definitely going to be only cleaning the inside with this one. Way too concerned about potential heavy metals cross contamination to try and clean the outer surface with any sort of abrasive or strong oxidizer.
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I've cleaned a couple of enameled pots with sodium percarb inside out with no issues. Oxiclean should be moreless the same thing, but may contain other substances as well.
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Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:53 am

WhisperingFrog192 wrote:
Thu Nov 10, 2022 3:03 am
DailyTX wrote:
Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:22 pm
WhisperingFrog192
The artist name on the round pot is 陳亞芬
https://www.fangshapot.com/27643.html ?
Makes me lean towards the possibility it could be a fake, given the relatively high-profile name (though it could be someone else named 陳亞芬 as well), the lack of typical mold-pressed tool marks (albeit I'm too unfamiliar with this style of teapot to say) and the off-center bottom stamp. But I don't know enough for certain.
I have a couple of large pots/kettles with the type of generic bottom stamp. I think it was used in 50-60s. The shape of the pot and the inside craftmanship seem roughly consistent with the period too, but the clay and the handle - i'm not familiar with those, hence some doubts.... High profile name is always a red flag.
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.m. wrote:
Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:53 am
WhisperingFrog192 wrote:
Thu Nov 10, 2022 3:03 am
DailyTX wrote:
Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:22 pm
WhisperingFrog192
The artist name on the round pot is 陳亞芬
https://www.fangshapot.com/27643.html ?
Makes me lean towards the possibility it could be a fake, given the relatively high-profile name (though it could be someone else named 陳亞芬 as well), the lack of typical mold-pressed tool marks (albeit I'm too unfamiliar with this style of teapot to say) and the off-center bottom stamp. But I don't know enough for certain.
I have a couple of large pots/kettles with the type of generic bottom stamp. I think it was used in 50-60s. The shape of the pot and the inside craftmanship seem roughly consistent with the period too, but the clay and the handle - i'm not familiar with those, hence some doubts.... High profile name is always a red flag.
Hopefully not too-far off of the current topic, but this generic kind of seal is something that I've wondered about before; does anyone know about its history?

This one on one of my big pots seems to be an earlier example; I assume ROC, but I don't know.

Andrew
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Andrew S wrote:
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https://www.fangshapot.com/27643.html ?
Makes me lean towards the possibility it could be a fake, given the relatively high-profile name (though it could be someone else named 陳亞芬 as well), the lack of typical mold-pressed tool marks (albeit I'm too unfamiliar with this style of teapot to say) and the off-center bottom stamp. But I don't know enough for certain.
I have a couple of large pots/kettles with the type of generic bottom stamp. I think it was used in 50-60s. The shape of the pot and the inside craftmanship seem roughly consistent with the period too, but the clay and the handle - i'm not familiar with those, hence some doubts.... High profile name is always a red flag.
Hopefully not too-far off of the current topic, but this generic kind of seal is something that I've wondered about before; does anyone know about its history?

This one on one of my big pots seems to be an earlier example; I assume ROC, but I don't know.

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Yes, common ROC seal chop. Need to look up which shop used it.
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