Yixing

[Baisao]

If a customer failed to ask about a crack you knew about, by your rationale, it’s acceptable to not provide them with this important information. After all, your “under no obligation to provide information to everyone who asks.”

And if you didn’t like them for some petty reason, we have now established, they may never hear it from you.

Of course I am responsible to disclose any known defects for anything I sell. I am not selling you your own teapot. I don't have any obligation to comment on it. You are trying really hard to build a case that isn't there. This is my last response to this stuff, then hopefully a mod will get us back on track.

No, steanze, it’s an attack on me from nowhere. You have an unsubstantiated grudge against me and I did nothing to you. You probably can’t keep track of all your grudges and plopped me into your list.

I haven’t asked you for a thing.

As for a case against you, I posit that you’ve inadvertently made that case yourself. I’ve only pointed out how you are unreliable as an “expert” because of your inability to remain impartial, even taking offense to imaginary events. If you are this brittle and unstable, we should reconsider your role as an Yixing expert.

You may know a lot but your actions prove you are unreliable.

[Baisao]

Hey, let’s get on track now that steanze ego has been stroked and finally has an un-imagined reason to dislike me. Enough with psycho-ceramics. Teapots!

[karma]

[steanze]

Glad we can get back to teapots.

Here's an another photo with indoor lighting, and a photo next to the YuHuaLong pot I adopted from you a few years ago. I estimated the pot is about 200-220 ml.

That's nice, is the YuHuaLong also HeiXingTu? It looks like it, but I cannot fully tell from the pictures. There are also some YuHuaLong pots made of a different kind of dark zini.

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[DailyTX]

@steanze Thanks for the youtube link, I do watch that guy from time to time. As for the YuHuaLong pot, you are right, it is heixingtu but the base clay is much darker. Here is a comparison I took earlier this year.

[steanze]

steanze Thanks for the youtube link, I do watch that guy from time to time. As for the YuHuaLong pot, you are right, it is heixingtu but the base clay is much darker. Here is a comparison I took earlier this year.

You are welcome! Very nice, thanks for sharing, the texture of the clay is clear in this picture. I can see the little manganese black dots (the "stars") in the YuHuaLong too now.

[DailyTX]

Since we are back to focusing on Yixing, I'll share this interesting pot. I was contemplating between pre-factor, factory, or replica. I also consulted with a few members privately and got different answers haha. I have put this pot to a test with shu puerh, Liu Bao, dancong, and shuixian (yancha). So far shuixian yield the best result in terms of taste vs. porcelain gaiwan. This pot soaked up water, tea or whatever liquid you pour on it super fast to the point that it drinks more tea than I do LOL. I think this may be the reason it started to develop patina faster than my ROC pot. Feel free to chime in

[steanze]

Since we are back to focusing on Yixing, I'll share this interesting pot. I was contemplating between pre-factor, factory, or replica. I also consulted with a few members privately and got different answers haha. I have put this pot to a test with shu puerh, Liu Bao, dancong, and shuixian (yancha). So far shuixian yield the best result in terms of taste vs. porcelain gaiwan. This pot soaked up water, tea or whatever liquid you pour on it super fast to the point that it drinks more tea than I do LOL. I think this may be the reason it started to develop patina faster than my ROC pot. Feel free to chime in

Looks like early 1980s green label F1 to me. Good clay.

[pedant]

Friends,

I do think things were getting off topic back there. If there's interpersonal conflict resolution to be done, could you please try to keep it in PM or something? Thank you.

[Chadrinkincat]

@DailyTX

How many black star zini pots do you have now? Any of them taking on a nice patina yet?


Speaking of clays, what are peoples thoughts on this one? Texture feels kinda silky. Hongni, fine qingshuni or some just some generic zisha blend?

[steanze]

Speaking of clays, what are peoples thoughts on this one? Texture feels kinda silky. Hongni, fine qingshuni or some just some generic zisha blend?

It looks like qingshuini. Note that the term is a bit generic, for modern pots it mostly means that it's zini on the lighter-colored end of the spectrum. It's harder to tell the specific mine where the ore is from.

[DailyTX]

DailyTX

How many black star zini pots do you have now? Any of them taking on a nice patina yet?

@Chadrinkincat 4 black star zini pots on my shelf. Only the square bamboo one has been more used for shu puerh and shu+sheng. The xiaolongtuan already came with patina. Since it's so pretty and the size is a bit big for solo brewing, I did not reset it. Maybe a future project when the weather is warmer to clean the inside only. I noticed that the 80s onward pots don't take on patina as well as pre-80s. This TaiJian pot I posted early, it has developed a nice patina from about 10 sessions, very intrigued.

[Ethan Kurland]

Friends,

I do think things were getting off topic back there. If there's interpersonal conflict resolution to be done, could you please try to keep it in PM or something? Thank you.

Good idea. However, I must admit the only times I have read this thread regularly is when there is conflict, since I don't care about yixing really. What I got curious about is which costs one more, collecting yixing teapots or collecting grudges?

What we might want to remember is one who has been insulting (directly and/or indirectly) without contrition (or something like it, such words are a bit beyond me) is like the father in The Brothers Karamazov. He explains why he had been dragging a man by his beard, "One day I insulted him for no reason and ever since then have hated him."

[Andrew S]

DailyTX

How many black star zini pots do you have now? Any of them taking on a nice patina yet?

Chadrinkincat 4 black star zini pots on my shelf. Only the square bamboo one has been more used for shu puerh and shu+sheng. The xiaolongtuan already came with patina. Since it's so pretty and the size is a bit big for solo brewing, I did not reset it. Maybe a future project when the weather is warmer to clean the inside only. I noticed that the 80s onward pots don't take on patina as well as pre-80s. This TaiJian pot I posted early, it has developed a nice patina from about 10 sessions, very intrigued.

My green label qing shui ni guava (early 80s, I assume) never really acquired that much of a patina, which bothered me a bit initially, but eventually make peace once I accepted that it makes nice tea and that should be enough.

I recall reading Kyarazen posting something about how different pots from the same series might acquire patina at different rates based on how the particular batch of clay was processed. Have people here experienced that much in person?

Andrew

[steanze]

My green label qing shui ni guava (early 80s, I assume) never really acquired that much of a patina, which bothered me a bit initially, but eventually make peace once I accepted that it makes nice tea and that should be enough.

I recall reading Kyarazen posting something about how different pots from the same series might acquire patina at different rates based on how the particular batch of clay was processed. Have people here experienced that much in person?

Andrew

Are you sure the guava is qingshuini? There are some early 80s guavas that are made of a slightly different, slightly darker zini that does not pick up patina quite as quickly as the qingshuini. It is also possible that it is the result of processing and firing. For instance, in my experience if a pot is slightly underfired, it might take a bit longer to develop patina.