Yixing

[Mark-S]

Mark-S

An example of a LQER neizhiwaihong pot.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/142937832 ... 0027295326

I don't like the style of this pot much, but it's useful information - thanks

[TeaTotaling]

OCTO How many ml is your lovely 80's Duanni pot?

TeaTotaling

It's about 150cc.... As a matter of fact, it's too small for PuErh. I bought this pot due to the rarity of the DuanNi and workmanship that came with this pot.

Cheers!!

Excellent! What type of DuanNi is it? It has a very rich color.

[TeaTotaling]

alejandro2high
TeaTotaling

I'm looking forwards to your experiments! I'm on the modern camp as I lack the knowledge to go vintage. The only older pot I have is an L80sE90s F1 Hongni, so it's unfair to compare. Frankly I contemplate moving over to Japanese clays as pricing seems more sensible

I also have no personal experience with antique teapots, but I have done a considerable amount of research, with various sources at my disposal here in the West. Although, I am by no means any sort of expert. It seems clear to me that finding a reputable source is the only way to go. Bargain shopping is entirely too risky in this department. I expect to pay top dollar for high quality antique pots. I did thorough research even before purchasing any modern Zisha. With the knowledge I have gained from the fine folks on this platform, I now have a better clarity to the research I have done.

I will definitely report back with my experience, once I have all items at my disposal.

[pantry]

@steanze @Youzi

Ah! Perhaps ginger is such an important ingredient in the cultures I grew up in. When I saw the sculpture it invoked something nostalgic inside me. I could smell, taste, and feel the heat just by looking at it. Of course, this has nothing to do with tea...

[steanze]

Mark-S

An example of a LQER neizhiwaihong pot.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/142937832 ... 0027295326

here is another one

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[steanze]

One thing sure is that it already has historically value. It's a milestone in contemporary designs, and you can see the impact already today.

Yes - historical value is important in my decision of whether to get a pot, there are pots I have that might not be very functional or that might not be my favorite style, but which I got because they are good examples o a period or had an influence on later works.

[Balthazar]

Anyone know much about Yixing mugs?

Got this pair from my mother-in-law, who used one of them as her office mug throughout most of her career. Based on her story they were bought either in the late 80s or 90s in Yixing. I assume they are from the 90s and were produced in the millions with some super-affordable clay blend, but really have no clue. It doesn't seem like clay mugs are all that popular either among collectors or drinkers. I'm not a huge fan of using them myself, although they can be useful for grandpa-style office brewing







Apologies for not cleaning them before taking the pictures

[Mark-S]

@steanze

Thanks

Anyone know much about Yixing mugs?

I was told that mugs are usually made of bad clay. There is a F1 mug, but I don't think you drink from it. You would use it like a teapot.

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[Balthazar]

Yeah, bad (and possibly additive-rich) clay is what I assume they're made of. The ones I have probably a lot worse than the linked F1 mug.

As for how to use the mugs, I think they're most commonly used as ... well, mugs, and not pots, at least in China. Although these days I rarely see anyone use unglazed clay for practical grandpa brewing, with glass and differert types of heat resistent plastic being much more common.

[Chadrinkincat]

Mark-S

An example of a LQER neizhiwaihong pot.

https://m.facebook.com/groups/142937832 ... 0027295326

here is another one

That is a nice example. Is this your pot?

[steanze]

That is a nice example. Is this your pot?

Thank you! Yes, it is my pot.

[TeaTotaling]

One thing sure is that it already has historically value. It's a milestone in contemporary designs, and you can see the impact already today.

Yes - historical value is important in my decision of whether to get a pot, there are pots I have that might not be very functional or that might not be my favorite style, but which I got because they are good examples o a period or had an influence on later works.

I agree, historical value of a teapot is important to me as well. It is an investment which holds it value, and can even become more valuable over time. I have long admired the Gongju style of teapot, made between the early years of the 17 century, and on into the middle of the 18th century. I also appreciate the timeless elegance of teapots inlayed with gold, such beautiful works of art, in my opinion.

[steanze]

I agree, historical value of a teapot is important to me as well. It is an investment which holds it value, and can even become more valuable over time. I have long admired the Gongju style of teapot, made between the early years of the 17 century, and on into the middle of the 18th century. I also appreciate the timeless elegance of teapots inlayed with gold, such beautiful works of art, in my opinion.

To my knowledge, gongju is usually late Qing. Haven't seen many from the early 17th century. Most are 19th century.
Sometimes pots with historical value can be clunky, but meaningful as a representative of some technique or period or innovation.
For investment, maybe it's better to get some ETFs

[TeaTotaling]

I agree, historical value of a teapot is important to me as well. It is an investment which holds it value, and can even become more valuable over time. I have long admired the Gongju style of teapot, made between the early years of the 17 century, and on into the middle of the 18th century. I also appreciate the timeless elegance of teapots inlayed with gold, such beautiful works of art, in my opinion.

To my knowledge, gongju is usually late Qing. Haven't seen many from the early 17th century. Most are 19th century.
Sometimes pots with historical value can be clunky, but meaningful as a representative of some technique or period or innovation.
For investment, maybe it's better to get some ETFs

I recently read and excerpt from Kuei-hsiang Lo’s book, and it’s believed many Gongju pots were made during this time. Not to say the style didn’t continue on afterwards.

You are thinking, say a 60’s pot, might be a better investment than a Qing pot of impeccable quality?

[steanze]

I recently read and excerpt from Kuei-hsiang Lo’s book, and it’s believed many Gongju pots were made during this time. Not to say the style didn’t continue on afterwards.

You are thinking, say a 60’s pot, might be a better investment than a Qing pot of impeccable quality?

I don't remember 17th century from K. S. Lo's book... that book contains some inaccuracies, for example it swapped the names of Cheng Shouzhen's son and grandson

I think neither is a good investment, because a good investment needs to have liquidity. If you need to liquidate a teapot as a private buyer and you don't have a strong reputation as expert it will not be easy to turn it into cash quickly without a loss.