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Wed May 20, 2020 9:12 am

Mark-S wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:09 am
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Wed May 20, 2020 9:03 am
Actually pretty easy to say, show us more images of inside lid and body and we can tell you for sure!
There are 1000s if not 100000 of NWLJ out there, not rare at all. Nice ones are rare.
Okay :) I thought that nzwh would be very common and nwlj quite rare.

The photo was taken in direct sunlight. I did not have time to set up a lightbox this morning.
you are right in relation NZWH is more common, but overall the amount is still large. Also a lot of NWLJ flies under the radar as hongni.

I am specifically referring to the area just around the lid knob, looks shiny, also the underside looked like it has brush traces. Is the area around the lid exit hole shiny?
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Wed May 20, 2020 12:37 pm

@Bok

I think you are right and this teapot is made of NWLJ. The inside looks coated (I don't think it's still wet :roll: ) and the clay is different to the touch in comparison to my confirmed Hongni pots. It's still nice in my opinion. I'll post the photos on Facebook in about 2 hours, and let you know what they say about the age.

Regarding NZWH and NWLJ... how modern are these practices?
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Wed May 20, 2020 12:48 pm

TeaTotaling wrote:
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This 80’s Duan Niyi, as it’s labeled, seems quite nice. Not exactly antique per se, but a good option I was considering.
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TeaTotaling nice pot. Chadrinkincat has the same pot, but i think his is green label if not mistaken.

Cheers!
Thanks! I haven’t committed to this one just yet. I have another red pot I might choose over this one. It is certainly very nice though. I would be curious to hear howChadrinkincat likes it!
I use mine for aged oolong because it brings out aged flavor while smithing out roughness of cheap tea. I tried it with young sheng too but it didn’t seem like good match. It’s a pretty drippy pot so functions more like a 120-150ml pot.
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Wed May 20, 2020 1:28 pm

I don't know if it's appropriate to ask this, because the seller is a member of this forum... :D but is this teapot really from F1 (80's)? I'm not planning on buying this pot, but it would be interesting to know.

https://www.ebay.de/itm/223933200131
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Wed May 20, 2020 1:53 pm

Mark-S wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 1:28 pm
I don't know if it's appropriate to ask this, because the seller is a member of this forum... :D but is this teapot really from F1 (80's)? I'm not planning on buying this pot, but it would be interesting to know.

https://www.ebay.de/itm/223933200131
looks right to me, make sure to check the pictures carefully though so you're aware of the pot's condition
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Wed May 20, 2020 2:29 pm

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Cool, I did not know they used mixed clays like this in the 80's. Thanks :)
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Wed May 20, 2020 6:58 pm

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steanze
Cool, I did not know they used mixed clays like this in the 80's. Thanks :)
A bunch of pots starting in the early 80’s use mixed clay like this. The earlier versions look nicer though. https://www.facebook.com/groups/twteapo ... 34?sfns=mo
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Wed May 20, 2020 7:30 pm

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Wed May 20, 2020 12:37 pm
Bok

I think you are right and this teapot is made of NWLJ. The inside looks coated (I don't think it's still wet :roll: ) and the clay is different to the touch in comparison to my confirmed Hongni pots. It's still nice in my opinion. I'll post the photos on Facebook in about 2 hours, and let you know what they say about the age.

Regarding NZWH and NWLJ... how modern are these practices?
They are not modern at all, I’ve seen a beautiful specimen of Neiwailinjiang from the late Qing dynasty... it was done so well, the owner did not even realise it for a while.

It’s been done by F1 and also F2 up until late 80s if I’m not mistaken.
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Wed May 20, 2020 7:43 pm

@Chadrinkincat
I have not seen any yet... or maybe I have and thought that they were modern... :|
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They are not modern at all, I’ve seen a beautiful specimen of Neiwailinjiang from the late Qing dynasty... it was done so well, the owner did not even realise it for a while.

It’s been done by F1 and also F2 up until late 80s if I’m not mistaken.
Very useful information, thanks :) I have posted the pot on Facebook by the way. The photo of the inside looked weird so I did not use it. (If someone has a tip on how to take a photo of the inside... ;) )

https://www.facebook.com/groups/teapot2 ... 1/?app=fbl
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Wed May 20, 2020 7:56 pm

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The photo of the inside looked weird so I did not use it. (If someone has a tip on how to take a photo of the inside... ;) )
you need to hold it up next to a window and turn and twist until you find an angle where you can see something. Afterwards it helps to crop out the rest of the image to focus on the essential parts.
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Wed May 20, 2020 7:59 pm

With these pictures I am pretty confident it is indeed NWLJ. The shine and you can also see quite a few brushmarks and accumulation of uneven glaze. Style-wise probable somewhere in the green label period, is my guess. Nice enough pot.

My local jade market has them in the dozens sitting on the shelves :lol:
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Wed May 20, 2020 8:13 pm

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you need to hold it up next to a window [...]
Okay, I'll try this the next time. With this little pot it was very hard... :D
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Style-wise probable somewhere in the green label period, is my guess. Nice enough pot.

My local jade market has them in the dozens sitting on the shelves :lol:
That would be nice. Do you have an idea what tea could be suitable for this extremely small size?

And how much would you have to pay for those pots in your country? I am just interested in the price difference.
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Wed May 20, 2020 9:31 pm

@Mark-S

40ml is pretty much only useful for CZ style brewing with cheap heavy fire oolong. Use a minimum of 5g or 7-10g for Chinese espresso
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Wed May 20, 2020 9:39 pm

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Mark-S

40ml is pretty much only useful for CZ style brewing with cheap heavy fire oolong. Use a minimum of 5g or 7-10g for Chinese espresso
Or for the opposite: very expensive Yancha or Dancong. As it is coated inside, it will be more closer to Hongni than Zini in performance. But then the workmanship is maybe a bit too crude for nicer teas.
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Wed May 20, 2020 9:52 pm

Bok wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:39 pm
Chadrinkincat wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:31 pm
Mark-S

40ml is pretty much only useful for CZ style brewing with cheap heavy fire oolong. Use a minimum of 5g or 7-10g for Chinese espresso
Or for the opposite: very expensive Yancha or Dancong. As it is coated inside, it will be more closer to Hongni than Zini in performance. But then the workmanship is maybe a bit too crude for nicer teas.
I would think if it pours fast enough, those teas would work fine.

Do you mean aesthetically too crude for a nicer tea session? Could you expand on what you mean by that, I'm just curious.
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