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Mon May 18, 2020 5:04 pm

pantry wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 4:50 pm
Mark-S wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 6:49 am
Three more pictures of the eBay pot if someone is interested.
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My favorite part is the sticker label with No.10 written on the bottom of the pot--very nice vintage feel :lol:
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Maybe a famous stamp is hidden under the sticker :lol:
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Mon May 18, 2020 5:06 pm

@DailyTX

I though that the body would also be made of Hongni and not Zini, but it's hard to see on the photos. The teapot now costs more than $600 including shipping to Germany. :shock:

@pantry

The description is even more questionable.
Found in a box with items c 1912-1915
Not that this is impossible, but... :lol: Nonetheless, the shape looks good and the clay / size make this pot even more interesting in my opinion.
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Mon May 18, 2020 7:05 pm

@map could you please repost them one by one, also with images of the inside of body and lid? Hard to say anything without these details, the seal is the least important factor.

Thanks!

Other than that o agree with the above, one of them is a Chaozhou teapot for sure.
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Mon May 18, 2020 7:08 pm

Mark-S wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 5:06 pm

The description is even more questionable.
Found in a box with items c 1912-1915
Not that this is impossible, but... :lol: Nonetheless, the shape looks good and the clay / size make this pot even more interesting in my opinion.
Why is the description questionable?

99% chance that statement is true. It’s likely vendors guess about age based on dated items found with unmarked teapot.

Take a look at the selection of stuff this person is selling, it’s all random old junk. In my experience it’s sellers like this that offer true gems.
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Mon May 18, 2020 7:22 pm

Chadrinkincat wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 7:08 pm
Mark-S wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 5:06 pm

The description is even more questionable.
Found in a box with items c 1912-1915
Not that this is impossible, but... :lol: Nonetheless, the shape looks good and the clay / size make this pot even more interesting in my opinion.
Why is the description questionable?

99% chance that statement is true. It’s likely vendors guess about age based on dated items found with unmarked teapot.

Take a look at the selection of stuff this person is selling, it’s all random old junk. In my experience it’s sellers like this that offer true gems.
I agree. The No.10 sticker looks genuinely old, and it's too unusual to be fake
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Mon May 18, 2020 7:48 pm

@Mark-S apart from the miss match lid, this pot is clearly old and genuine. Looks hand built. Sticker as well looks authentic handwritten. It looks red, so it’s either what collectors call Zisha, or Zhuni. Guessing from the shape and size, I think it used to be a Biandeng shape of some kind. 600 would still be a good deal, but it will likely not stay that low :)
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Mon May 18, 2020 7:49 pm

@TeaTotaling I do indeed use Duanni, for Gaoshan. I wish I had more of them, but antique Duanni is hard to come by in acceptable quality...
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Mon May 18, 2020 7:51 pm

@Mark-S
I was told by a seller that this tea set was purchased in SF Chinatown in 1948 by her grandmother. She was also selling a bunch of other junk that looked like it was found in an old persons attic. The pot looks old enough to fit with the story I was told. The price was too low and I had to rely on these crappy photos.

Here is the actual pot that arrived. Authentic 1940’s puffed lid.

Moral of the story is that you should always look to see what other items the person is selling before assuming they’re lying. The world is filled with ignorant people selling stuff well below market value. The best deals are usually “buy it now” items rather than auctions though.

BTW the likelihood of this eBay pot being legit is pretty high. The person that put in winning bid is very knowledgeable about antique pots.
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Mon May 18, 2020 8:02 pm

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Mark-S apart from the miss match lid, this pot is clearly old and genuine. Looks hand built. Sticker as well looks authentic handwritten. It looks red, so it’s either what collectors call Zisha, or Zhuni. Guessing from the shape and size, I think it used to be a Biandeng shape of some kind. 600 would still be a good deal, but it will likely not stay that low :)
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Although a mismatched would be a deal breaker for me unless price was $100 or so.
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Mon May 18, 2020 8:03 pm

Chadrinkincat wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 8:02 pm
Bok wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 7:48 pm
Mark-S apart from the miss match lid, this pot is clearly old and genuine. Looks hand built. Sticker as well looks authentic handwritten. It looks red, so it’s either what collectors call Zisha, or Zhuni. Guessing from the shape and size, I think it used to be a Biandeng shape of some kind. 600 would still be a good deal, but it will likely not stay that low :)
+1
Although a mismatched would be a deal breaker for me unless price was $100 or so.
If the body turns out to be Zhuni it’s still worth it I think and the lid is not the worst replacement.

Very nice puffy lid by the way! Those are the lucky draws we all dream of. :)
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Mon May 18, 2020 8:04 pm

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Mon May 18, 2020 7:51 pm
Mark-S
I was told by a seller that this tea set was purchased in SF Chinatown in 1948 by her grandmother. She was also selling a bunch of other junk that looked like it was found in an old persons attic. The pot looks old enough to fit with the story I was told. The price was too low and I had to rely on these crappy photos.

Here is the actual pot that arrived. Authentic 1940’s puffed lid.

Moral of the story is that you should always look to see what other items the person is selling before assuming they’re lying. The world is filled with ignorant people selling stuff well below market value. The best deals are usually “buy it now” items rather than auctions though.

BTW the likelihood of this eBay pot being legit is pretty high. The person that put in winning bid is very knowledgeable about antique pots.
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That 40s pot was an in person buy?
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Mon May 18, 2020 8:09 pm

Bok wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 8:03 pm
Chadrinkincat wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 8:02 pm
Bok wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 7:48 pm
Mark-S apart from the miss match lid, this pot is clearly old and genuine. Looks hand built. Sticker as well looks authentic handwritten. It looks red, so it’s either what collectors call Zisha, or Zhuni. Guessing from the shape and size, I think it used to be a Biandeng shape of some kind. 600 would still be a good deal, but it will likely not stay that low :)
+1
Although a mismatched would be a deal breaker for me unless price was $100 or so.
If the body turns out to be Zhuni it’s still worth it I think and the lid is not the worst replacement.

Very nice puffy lid by the way! Those are the lucky draws we all dream of. :)
@Bok and @Chadrinkincat
What’s the % discount for a pot with mismatch lid if I am buying it from a reputable antique shop?
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Mon May 18, 2020 8:11 pm

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Bok and Chadrinkincat
What’s the % discount for a pot with mismatch lid if I am buying it from a reputable antique shop?
They won't sell this kind of pots. Asian collectors will never buy it.
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Mon May 18, 2020 8:17 pm

@Bok
Thanks. Yes these are the pots and deals I dream of, sadly pots like this are seldom for sale. Unfortunately I tapped it w/ my kettle so now it has a hairline crack. Sort of a shame.

@Teachronicles
It was an online purchase I made a couple years ago. Those photos are what I had to go off of along w/ sellers story.
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Mon May 18, 2020 8:24 pm

Bok wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 8:11 pm
DailyTX wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 8:09 pm
Bok and Chadrinkincat
What’s the % discount for a pot with mismatch lid if I am buying it from a reputable antique shop?
They won't sell this kind of pots. Asian collectors will never buy it.
I’m actually surprised it sold for $519 especially since the person that bought it likely knows the lid isn’t original.
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