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Sat May 09, 2020 9:01 am

Bok wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 8:12 am
gradiva wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 7:56 am
So what clay do you like better for yancha, if I may ask? Zhuni?
For me, it would depend on the quality of the Yancha. High end Yancha I would not brew in anything else than Zhuni or Porcelain. Maybe a thin walled Hongni could be considered. Anything else I'd fear would take some of the expensive preciousness away...
How do you maintain the temperature up with porcelain?
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Sat May 09, 2020 9:09 am

gradiva wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 9:01 am
How do you maintain the temperature up with porcelain?
Re-boil the water every 2-3 brews - and no long pause in between rounds.
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Sat May 09, 2020 9:22 am

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Sat May 09, 2020 8:46 am
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Sat May 09, 2020 8:40 am
Balthazar
Nice. I've forget all about that article. But i have been using my little flat F1 hongni pot with young green puerh lately and liking the results. :D
I'm using F1 hongni for young sheng myself, although it's not a flat profile.



Here's some pictures that better captures the profile of my modern pot, btw. Probably not not quite as flat as it appeared in the bird's-eye view.

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@Balthazar
This shape looks like a F1 design. I remember a while ago, I posted a pair of flat pots, and one of the members posted one that looked like yours.

Edit: founded on page 37
Chadrinkcat linked a photo there
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Sat May 09, 2020 9:29 am

I like those flat shaped pots, but I did not know that they would be good for brewing tea. :)
Bok wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 9:09 am
Re-boil the water every 2-3 brews - and no long pause in between rounds.
That's interesting... I have read that it's not recommended to reboil water to brew tea.
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Sat May 09, 2020 9:34 am

Mark-S wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 9:29 am
I like those flat shaped pots, but I did not know that they would be good for brewing tea. :)
Bok wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 9:09 am
Re-boil the water every 2-3 brews - and no long pause in between rounds.
That's interesting... I have read that it's not recommended to reboil water to brew tea.
@Mark-S

You have pointed out correctly that there are recommendations not to reboil water to brew tea. That's the "dead water" school of thoughts.. but it's ok to reboil a few times as you won't be able to taste a very distinct difference in your tea between a freshly boiled water and one that is boiled over few times.

Cheers!!
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Sat May 09, 2020 10:02 am

DailyTX wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 9:22 am
Balthazar
This shape looks like a F1 design. I remember a while ago, I posted a pair of flat pots, and one of the members posted one that looked like yours.

Edit: founded on page 37
Chadrinkcat linked a photo there
First of all: I can't believe this thread has grown by 100 pages in a couple of months. Well done everybody :)

Thanks for digging that up, the shape does indeed look very similar. The pot was gifted to my wife's family by a well-off acquaintance either in the late 90s or early 00s, so I assumed that it was made after F1 had shut down, but it might not. It came with a certificate from the potter and a information booklet, which I'm unfortunately not able to locate now.. I always assumed such "showoffish" presentations precluded F1. Also, the lid fit is really just perfect, which is not the case for any of my F1 pots (although it might be sample bias, I don't have any rare ones).

Here are some more photos:

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Sat May 09, 2020 10:04 am

OCTO wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 9:34 am
Mark-S wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 9:29 am
I like those flat shaped pots, but I did not know that they would be good for brewing tea. :)
Bok wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 9:09 am
Re-boil the water every 2-3 brews - and no long pause in between rounds.
That's interesting... I have read that it's not recommended to reboil water to brew tea.
Mark-S

You have pointed out correctly that there are recommendations not to reboil water to brew tea. That's the "dead water" school of thoughts.. but it's ok to reboil a few times as you won't be able to taste a very distinct difference in your tea between a freshly boiled water and one that is boiled over few times.

Cheers!!
+1 to both :)
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Sat May 09, 2020 10:07 am

Bok wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 9:09 am
gradiva wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 9:01 am
How do you maintain the temperature up with porcelain?
Re-boil the water every 2-3 brews - and no long pause in between rounds.
But what about during the brew? it seems to me that my gaiwan rapidly drops in temperature so I guess I am now wondering if it makes sense to compensate heat loss with steeping time...
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Sat May 09, 2020 10:19 am

If we are still talking about yancha, I assume you are preheating the vessel and mostly doing flash-steeps, at least for the first few brews? It seems doubtful that the temperature inside will drop enough during a brew for the effect to be noticeable when flash-steeping. For later and longer steeps, you might need to adjust the steep time according the the heat properties of the vessel you are using. Experimentation is key.

I occasionally transfer the tea from the gaiwan to a preheated teapot for later steeps for this reason.
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Sat May 09, 2020 11:56 am

Balthazar wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 10:02 am
DailyTX wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 9:22 am
Balthazar
This shape looks like a F1 design. I remember a while ago, I posted a pair of flat pots, and one of the members posted one that looked like yours.

Edit: founded on page 37
Chadrinkcat linked a photo there
First of all: I can't believe this thread has grown by 100 pages in a couple of months. Well done everybody :)

Thanks for digging that up, the shape does indeed look very similar. The pot was gifted to my wife's family by a well-off acquaintance either in the late 90s or early 00s, so I assumed that it was made after F1 had shut down, but it might not. It came with a certificate from the potter and a information booklet, which I'm unfortunately not able to locate now.. I always assumed such "showoffish" presentations precluded F1. Also, the lid fit is really just perfect, which is not the case for any of my F1 pots (although it might be sample bias, I don't have any rare ones).

Here are some more photos:

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Those extra images, I would guess it’s after F1
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Balthazar
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Sat May 09, 2020 12:13 pm

+1. Probably just inspired by the shape/style.
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Sat May 09, 2020 1:55 pm

DailyTX wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 11:56 am
Balthazar wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 10:02 am
DailyTX wrote:
Sat May 09, 2020 9:22 am
Balthazar
This shape looks like a F1 design. I remember a while ago, I posted a pair of flat pots, and one of the members posted one that looked like yours.

Edit: founded on page 37
Chadrinkcat linked a photo there
First of all: I can't believe this thread has grown by 100 pages in a couple of months. Well done everybody :)

Thanks for digging that up, the shape does indeed look very similar. The pot was gifted to my wife's family by a well-off acquaintance either in the late 90s or early 00s, so I assumed that it was made after F1 had shut down, but it might not. It came with a certificate from the potter and a information booklet, which I'm unfortunately not able to locate now.. I always assumed such "showoffish" presentations precluded F1. Also, the lid fit is really just perfect, which is not the case for any of my F1 pots (although it might be sample bias, I don't have any rare ones).

Here are some more photos:

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Those extra images, I would guess it’s after F1
My thoughts too. Looks nicely made though
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Sat May 09, 2020 5:06 pm

That shape is like 300 years old, so... :D
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Balthazar
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Tue May 12, 2020 4:40 am

The below photos are of a teapot that's supposed to be made of "Nian Gao Tu" (年糕土) clay. It's siginificantly less red in real life than it appears on these photos (only have my mobile phone at hand, unfortunately).

Anyone know much about this clay? Its my go-to pot for Taiwanese oolongs and TGY, as it seems to be less muting than probably any other pot I own. Kyarazen provided some info back in 2015, but the clays origin still seems to be a bit of a mystery

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Tue May 12, 2020 9:42 am

@Balthazar

It's a special blend of clay as all other clays in F1. The material should probably be from the mines which were active during that production of Niangaotu. I don't know which years were niangaotu common at, so I can't tell from which mines it could've come from.
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