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Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:36 am

Bok wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:07 am
Nice, so it's probably just the traces from previous owner's hands :lol:
:lol: perhaps
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Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:01 am

What do you think of Jing Dian Tao Fang?
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Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:06 am

Mark-S wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:01 am
What do you think of Jing Dian Tao Fang?
What's that?
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Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:12 am

OCTO wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:06 am
Mark-S wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:01 am
What do you think of Jing Dian Tao Fang?
What's that?
A studio from Yixing which claims to use only F1 clays as far as I know. It was mentioned a couple of times on teachat and pu-erh.sk sells their pots.
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Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:29 am

Mark-S wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:12 am
OCTO wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:06 am
Mark-S wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:01 am
What do you think of Jing Dian Tao Fang?
What's that?
A studio from Yixing which claims to use only F1 clays as far as I know. It was mentioned a couple of times on teachat and pu-erh.sk sells their pots.
The claims in Yixing are plentiful... I have a hard time believing how a studio can produce thousands, possibly millions of pots from the 90s until now and still have stock of supposed factory clay :)
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Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:31 am

Mark-S wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:12 am

A studio from Yixing which claims to use only F1 clays as far as I know. It was mentioned a couple of times on teachat and pu-erh.sk sells their pots.
OIC.. there are so many thousand Yixing teapot studios in Yixing itself.... it's almost impossible to know them by name unless one goes searching for a specific studio.

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Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:11 am

@Bok
I doubt that too, thanks. :) It's hard for me to trust a modern studio. I think I'll just stick to using F1 pots for now.

@OCTO
Yeah, that's true. However, this name popped up multiple times on teachat. Someone in Germany is selling a pot of this studio, so I figured it would not be a bad idea to ask for your opinion. :D

chrl42 (in my eyes an experienced collector) wrote this in 2013 on teachat:
The experts know its date by looking at its clay..which means old days making of Yixing teapot was more organized, regardless of its quality or clay, carving or seals. The same shouldn't be applied to today's so you need to search a lot, look a lot.

One thing you can do is, you look for names.

Famous masters or studios (like Factory 1, Huang Long Yuan or Jing Dian Tao Fang (for commercial pots)
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Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:46 am

Mark-S wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:11 am
Bok
I doubt that too, thanks. :) It's hard for me to trust a modern studio. I think I'll just stick to using F1 pots for now.

OCTO
Yeah, that's true. However, this name popped up multiple times on teachat. Someone in Germany is selling a pot of this studio, so I figured it would not be a bad idea to ask for your opinion. :D

chrl42 (in my eyes an experienced collector) wrote this in 2013 on teachat:
The experts know its date by looking at its clay..which means old days making of Yixing teapot was more organized, regardless of its quality or clay, carving or seals. The same shouldn't be applied to today's so you need to search a lot, look a lot.

One thing you can do is, you look for names.

Famous masters or studios (like Factory 1, Huang Long Yuan or Jing Dian Tao Fang (for commercial pots)

Chris (chrl42) is from Yixing, I'm very sure he will have his own preferred studio which meets his expectations. Personally, I'm totally unfamiliar with studios as I prefer to look at the workmanship and clay.

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Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:37 am

Mark-S wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:11 am
chrl42 (in my eyes an experienced collector) wrote this in 2013 on teachat:
And two years later:
and 97~99 Jing Dian Tao Fang used Factory-1 clays..their recent clays are also okay for the price.
:)
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Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:46 am

@Balthazar
Okay, thanks. So it's nothing special.
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Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:17 am

@Mark-S

I have one JDTF pot. It's quite old school style. Like 90s pots. But their construction is much better than F1 or other 90s 00s productions.

It's a modern option for those who like like they charm of older pots, while have a good fitting lid and straight lines.
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Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:22 am

Youzi wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:17 am
Mark-S

I have one JDTF pot. It's quite old school style. Like 90s pots. But their construction is much better than F1 or other 90s 00s productions.

It's a modern option for those who like like they charm of older pots, while have a good fitting lid and straight lines.
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Old school style?
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Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:19 am

Mark-S wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:46 am
Balthazar
Okay, thanks. So it's nothing special.
I really wouldn't know. Depeneds on what "special" means to you. If you consider F1 90s clay to be "special", then it might be special. How much is the seller charging, and do you know when it was made?
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Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:05 am

Chadrinkincat wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:22 am
Youzi wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:17 am
Mark-S

I have one JDTF pot. It's quite old school style. Like 90s pots. But their construction is much better than F1 or other 90s 00s productions.

It's a modern option for those who like like they charm of older pots, while have a good fitting lid and straight lines.
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Old school style?
I'd say as an alternative to 80s 90s F1.
Old school style as that its not the modern shiny smooth look everyone is going for.
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Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:03 pm

Youzi wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:17 am
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Is the JDTF pot on this picture? I think these JDTF pots could be similar to my recent "fake" pot.

@Balthazar

"F1 90s clay" is more special than "random studio's 2018" clay in my opinion. :lol: Of course that does not say much about the clay's quality. The teapot was sold by pu-erh.sk in 2018 for about $100 and he wants about $70 for it. I think I will take a pass on it. But maybe, I will buy a teapot with another shape of this studio some time.
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