Just came across this. You can compare the details to this authentic pot from ZAG: http://zishaartgallery.com/product/%e6% ... b6-za0105/Mark-S wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:39 pmChadrinkincat
I have just bought a new teapot which looks similar to the one you are selling on eBay (except for the lid). What do you think? The teapot has a 7-hole filter. Unfortunately, I cannot show you pictures of the inside because it is VERY dirty. The teapot looks genuine to me, but I have not found a teapot with a similar lid knob yet. The size is about 660cc. The pour is good, but it drips from the lid.
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Is he? Cool! I think maybe this sorta stuff isn't well indexed, or maybe I'm googling the wrong keywords. Anyway you could link me to a thread that talks about him?Bok wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:55 amWeird... he's the new everyone's darling on the bloc at the moment! Lots of talk about his offerings on IG and also here. From the comments I gather that people are in general happy with his pots. Smart guy, jumped the Great Firewall of China, thus skipping the Western middle man and sell directly to Westerners
Just search Yingchen or Yinchen here on the forum, for IG I am not sure if you can actually search that, unless people used hashtags.
@Bok
I cannot afford early 60s to early 70s, and to be honest I like the ornamented pots better.
This pot from zishaartgallery.com costs $410 (not including shipping), and many of my other pots are in this price range also. Maybe, you could get a better pot for this money, but I paid less than $30 for it. If I include all the bad pots I paid an average price of $50 for a genuine F1 pot. For this little money it's impossible to get something better. Before I use a pot I check it thoroughly. If the smell or taste is not neutral I won't use it. I even test it for heavy metals. 
Obviously, the clay is not top-grade but still better than most modern pots in my opinion. Maybe I will buy a custom teapot from Yinchen some time, but I still have some F1 teapots on my list I really want to have. I don't think that I will buy an early 60s to early 70s pot anytime soon. The risk to buy a fake pot is just too high for me.
I cannot afford early 60s to early 70s, and to be honest I like the ornamented pots better.
This pot from zishaartgallery.com costs $410 (not including shipping), and many of my other pots are in this price range also. Maybe, you could get a better pot for this money, but I paid less than $30 for it. If I include all the bad pots I paid an average price of $50 for a genuine F1 pot. For this little money it's impossible to get something better. Before I use a pot I check it thoroughly. If the smell or taste is not neutral I won't use it. I even test it for heavy metals. Obviously, the clay is not top-grade but still better than most modern pots in my opinion. Maybe I will buy a custom teapot from Yinchen some time, but I still have some F1 teapots on my list I really want to have. I don't think that I will buy an early 60s to early 70s pot anytime soon. The risk to buy a fake pot is just too high for me.Thanks, I am in the cleaning process right now. I will compare them when the pot is clean.Bok wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 1:16 amJust came across this. You can compare the details to this authentic pot from ZAG: http://zishaartgallery.com/product/%e6% ... b6-za0105/
@Mark-S check all your pots on how crisp the details are (leaves branches etc.), the calligraphies, colour of clay and proportions against confirmed examples of catalogues or similar. I would not suggest to compare them to other collectors, they might unknowingly have fakes/copies.
F2 copied a lot of designs from F1 and they can look the same to the untrained eye. But the devil is in the details. Superficially similar but F2 is more rough and gets the proportions wrong sometimes. So if it even looks a tiny bit off to the ones from the catalogues there is a good chance it’s not F1.
F2 copied a lot of designs from F1 and they can look the same to the untrained eye. But the devil is in the details. Superficially similar but F2 is more rough and gets the proportions wrong sometimes. So if it even looks a tiny bit off to the ones from the catalogues there is a good chance it’s not F1.
The ones you are after, normally do have pretty good craftsmanship. Sloppy happens more with the early factory and the standard teapots.
If the bamboo tree flower decoration is not done well it’s probably F2
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I’m sure I’ve posted this before but here it is again. An F2 catalogue. https://www.facebook.com/groups/twteapo ... 91?sfns=mo
@Bok
This is partly true for some designs but often the difference between the same pot from F1 and F2 is quite obvious.
@Bok
This is partly true for some designs but often the difference between the same pot from F1 and F2 is quite obvious.
@Bok
Thanks, I will check the craftsmanship of my pots again. But I think most of them are indeed F1 pots. Zisha Art Gallery also has a 50s version of my other pot: http://zishaartgallery.com/product/%e7% ... %e8%a8%98/ However, I do not think that my pot is from this era. Most likely it's green label.
@Chadrinkincat
I have not seen this catalogue before, thank you very much!
Thanks, I will check the craftsmanship of my pots again. But I think most of them are indeed F1 pots. Zisha Art Gallery also has a 50s version of my other pot: http://zishaartgallery.com/product/%e7% ... %e8%a8%98/ However, I do not think that my pot is from this era. Most likely it's green label.
@Chadrinkincat
I have not seen this catalogue before, thank you very much!
@ChadrinkincatChadrinkincat wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:24 amI’m sure I’ve posted this before but here it is again. An F2 catalogue. https://www.facebook.com/groups/twteapo ... 91?sfns=mo
Bok
This is partly true for some designs but often the difference between the same pot from F1 and F2 is quite obvious.
Very informative link to F2 pots. Now I can understand why the market has such unique pots. In the past, I think I typically try to identify F2 based on clay texture
Just want to add to something I read recently, I have no idea on validity. Maybe @Bok may know more giving your location. I came across an article talking about F1 in the 80s, and 1985 was the cut off mark for “old pots”. The article said a lot of pots with yixing China stamp were imported to Taiwan in the 80s until the government came out with a ban. 1985 afterward, the stamp on the bottom was replaced with name of the artist. Anyone heard of this before?
I belive this is why the green label "made in china" was created, so that it could be easy to peeled off when exported to Taiwan, and why the mengchen seal was reintroduced and existed in parallel to the zhongguo seal.