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Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:43 pm

More pots from Indonesia for teh poci
These don’t look like yixing clay to me. 99% sure that original pot is not either and is more likely same or similar clay as the ones made in Indonesia.







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Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:46 pm

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More pots from Indonesia for teh poci
How interesting! Looks like a locally made style to me now, after seeing all these pictures. Come to think of it, I have never come across this style in Yixing before.
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I do not have enough money to buy them all, and I like the green label pots better because of the designs. :lol: Furthermore, I do not like pots with chips or a broken spout if it is not repaired. Last week I had the opportunity to buy a late Qing to early republic pot for $65, but it had a broken spout, so I took a pass on it. The same pot was posted in the Facebook group. I took a screenshot some time ago and remembered it (you can see the pot below). It is really hard to find undamaged teapots from this time or earlier.
Lucky you didn't... that pot looks like a fake to me. Think about it, why would anyone in their right mind sell you a LQER for 65$? Exactly. No one will, even less while telling you it is LQER. Maybe, big MAYBE, if they don't know what it is.

A perfect condition teapot from that period will set you back at least over 1000$, depending on clay and style.
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Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:56 pm

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Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:54 pm
Mark-S

I think the last one I saw with that same round seal was $20-30 and details looked exactly the same. I could be wrong but I don’t think these pots are made of yixing clay. I’ve never seen one in person but based on pictures I has more of a Chaozhou look. Probably not a very practical pot for use but sorta cool as a curiosity piece.

Which decorated F1 pots in Europe are you talking about?
Okay, thanks for the further information. If it is not Yixing clay and I do not like it, I will probably sell it again.

For example, I have got a teapot that looks like this: https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/352910133156 (also with the green label on it) I paid about 30€ for it if I remember correctly. It is new and came with the original box. It has just a minor chip on the lid. This was one of my favorite purchases. My favorite is a bigger teapot with a dragon head and a moveable ring on top of the lid. Sorry, that I cannot show you any pictures. I will soon have my camera back.
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Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:01 pm

@Mark-S
Plain/simple designs are much easier to sell to actual tea drinkers in the west now due to size and prices which is why vendors offer them now. In the 80-90’s few people in the west were drinking outta tiny pot which means most people wanted 300ml+ pots so rules out basic shapes which aren’t made that big.
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Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:46 pm
Chadrinkincat wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:43 pm
More pots from Indonesia for teh poci
How interesting! Looks like a locally made style to me now, after seeing all these pictures. Come to think of it, I have never come across this style in Yixing before.
It’s basically like like CZ shape like this.
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Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:07 pm

@Chadrinkincat I meant the particular style of fittings and the elongated shape of the spout. The basic shape is of course very common since the Qing dynasty.
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Lucky you didn't... that pot looks like a fake to me. Think about it, why would anyone in their right mind sell you a LQER for 65$? Exactly. No one will, even less while telling you it is LQER. Maybe, big MAYBE, if they don't know what it is.

A perfect condition teapot from that period will set you back at least over 1000$, depending on clay and style.
This is the Facebook post with more images: https://m.facebook.com/groups/142937832 ... 9126874413

What do you think? The seller did not tell me the age. He just said that it is old. :lol: Could this be real? Would you consider to buy it if I still got the chance?
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Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:15 pm

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Chadrinkincat I meant the particular style of fittings and the elongated shape of the spout. The basic shape is of course very common since the Qing dynasty.
Ah I was gonna say that’s odd you aren’t familiar with it. Yes, this style of repairs seems distinct to the area Asia. Reminds me somewhat of those fully metal middle eastern pots.
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Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:17 pm

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This is the Facebook post with more images: https://m.facebook.com/groups/142937832 ... 9126874413

What do you think? The seller did not tell me the age. He just said that it is old. :lol: Could this be real? Would you consider to buy it if I still got the chance?
Taken those additional images into account, there is a chance it was real. But can't be sure, without holding it in hands... Personally, I don't care for these fancy designs.
The decorated ones are prime candidates for faking, so double caution is in order.
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Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:22 pm

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Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:50 pm
Mark-S wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:36 pm
I do not have enough money to buy them all, and I like the green label pots better because of the designs. :lol: Furthermore, I do not like pots with chips or a broken spout if it is not repaired. Last week I had the opportunity to buy a late Qing to early republic pot for $65, but it had a broken spout, so I took a pass on it. The same pot was posted in the Facebook group. I took a screenshot some time ago and remembered it (you can see the pot below). It is really hard to find undamaged teapots from this time or earlier.
Lucky you didn't... that pot looks like a fake to me. Think about it, why would anyone in their right mind sell you a LQER for 65$? Exactly. No one will, even less while telling you it is LQER. Maybe, big MAYBE, if they don't know what it is.

A perfect condition teapot from that period will set you back at least over 1000$, depending on clay and style.
If someone doesn’t know something is worth $$$$ then odds are you aren’t gonna pay $$$$. I payed $12 for my early 70’s xian piao in mint condition w/ wax coating.
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Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:49 pm

Yep, luck and ignorance is always a factor :mrgreen:
Had my fair share of dumb luck as well
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i will be home after weekend so adding only older photos where i freshly cleaned the pot so it is wet inside
thanks a lot for your help.
The teapot looks to be 90's or newer. I can't figure out from the photos whats going on on the surface, but now it almost looks to me like it has been artificially stained with something both outside and inside? (If that is the case, you might have to use a sodium percarbonate or a bleach or whatever it takes to clean it.)
Will take better pictures once back home end of the week but inner was just stained with heavy use. Outside seem like coated with something metalic/violet. Thanks for helping me to solve this
Took a bit longer to get back to the pot.
Still not sure what to think about the surface/material. Curious to know your opinion.
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Also have another one with shiny outside and the lid. I am not sure what to think about it. Is it wax. Strange bubbles under the lid. It has been used and i got it from japan(same as previous one)
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