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Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:55 pm

@Mark-S

That excess clay dust inside seems a bit odd. Overall feel of this pot seems a bit wonky too so I’m guessing this one isn’t F1. There is a company called Red & Green co. that sold pots like this w/ that same green box along w/ a little paper booklet so I might be from them.
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Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:09 pm

Chadrinkincat wrote:
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Mark-S

That excess clay dust inside seems a bit odd. Overall feel of this pot seems a bit wonky too so I’m guessing this one isn’t F1. There is a company called Red & Green co. that sold pots like this w/ that same green box along w/ a little paper booklet so I might be from them.
I could not find a similar teapot from this company, but thanks for the information. I will search some more the next days. This company Red & Green co. is it from the US? My teapot came from Australia.
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Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:28 pm

Also weird that handle and spout have seam lines, usually those fancy designs have better workmanship. Spout holes are also very badly aligned. Don’t think it’s F1
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:41 am

@Mark-S
Seems both the spout and the handle is casted.

Can you see holes or dents on the inside of the teapot, where the handle is connected to the body?
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:03 am

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Mark-S
Seems both the spout and the handle is casted.

Can you see holes or dents on the inside of the teapot, where the handle is connected to the body?
No, there are no holes or dents, and the clay is rough on the inside. How do you know it is casted and not molded?
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:13 am

Mark-S wrote:
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Youzi wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:41 am
Mark-S
Seems both the spout and the handle is casted.

Can you see holes or dents on the inside of the teapot, where the handle is connected to the body?
No, there are no holes or dents, and the clay is rough on the inside. How do you know it is casted and not molded?
You can see the straight cast lines Across the spout and the handle.

In that case, it seems, that maybe the body was molded and the spout and handle casted, and attached to the body.
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 3:51 am

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So these lines are a clear indicator for slipcasting? I did not know that. :oops: I am pretty confident that the body was not casted though.

However, you do not always see holes or dents in slip cast pots. A better indicator for slipcasting is the texture of the clay in my opinion. It is very uniform and the clay almost feels the same on the inside/outside. This is an example (I am absolutely sure that this one is slipcasted):
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:54 am

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Youzi
So these lines are a clear indicator for slipcasting? I did not know that. :oops: I am pretty confident that the body was not casted though.

However, you do not always see holes or dents in slip cast pots. A better indicator for slipcasting is the texture of the clay in my opinion. It is very uniform and the clay almost feels the same on the inside/outside. This is an example (I am absolutely sure that this one is slipcasted):
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As I said before. The three part was made separately, then assembled together. Of course you need to evaluate all the signs together, cannot evaluate them by themselves.

You can see, that the handle and the spout is casted, but the body doesn't have holes or dents, meaning that they were made separately. If the body was casted separately then the body obviously won't have dents inside.

The body could have also been thrown too, or machine half hand.

So there are more things to consider then just one factor or the other.
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:45 am

Hello guys,
so I bought Lao Shi apple teapot (don´t you know Chinese characters and pronunciation for this shape?) and on the pot there are horizontal lines. It is first time I see it on yixing pot. Do you know what they are? Also can you recognize the type of clay?
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:17 am

@Simniak maybe show some more pictures inside out, and we can help better. Btw laoshi just means teacher :)
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Simniak maybe show some more pictures inside out, and we can help better. Btw laoshi just means teacher :)
Soooorry. And sorry for my bad photos.
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:42 pm

More photos. Do you know name of this shape please? (chinese charakters and pronunciation). What are these horizontal lines on outside please? First time seeing them. And do you know what kind of clay it is? Hong ni?
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:12 pm

Simniak wrote:
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More photos. Do you know name of this shape please? (chinese charakters and pronunciation). What are these horizontal lines on outside please? First time seeing them. And do you know what kind of clay it is? Hong ni?
The shape is literally called "apple", or 苹果 "PingGuo" in chinese. In Factory 1, a black version of this pot was made which would be called "black apple", "HeiPingGuo". I don't know about the lines, they could be just remnants of some sort of aiding lines to help during the shaping of the pot.
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:29 pm

Simniak wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:42 pm
More photos. Do you know name of this shape please? (chinese charakters and pronunciation). What are these horizontal lines on outside please? First time seeing them. And do you know what kind of clay it is? Hong ni?
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I've also not seen those lines on the outside before on any teapot.. Could that be a Design element? Not sure.
However what I can tell, is that the pot seems to be half hand made.
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