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Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:36 am

Chadrinkincat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:32 am
It seems like many of these enamel pots are too low fired for actual use.
Probably good enough for the off-the-rack low quality roasted tea many had available in the Chinese diaspora? Also don't think people back then cared as much about pairing the right tea and clay as we do now.
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Wed Dec 18, 2019 9:50 am

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Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:28 am
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Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:41 am
The glaze won’t touch the interior...
This may sound paranoid, but I would actually have a bad feeling touching it. :lol:
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I think touching it is fine. Although the zisha may be under fired, but the glaze is crystalized. Many Chinese antique tea wares may also have lead problem with use, for example, Jingdezhen cups and teapots from the ROC era. If you look at the porcelain thread, I think I posted a cup, and it was discussed between Bok and myself.
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Wed Dec 18, 2019 9:57 am

Here is another one that sits on my shelf, and it has better firing. I got it pretty much for free :D
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Wed Dec 18, 2019 12:44 pm

@DailyTX
Firing does look a little better. These are interesting pots for examining old hand built techniques. I’ve got one of the square shapes w/ Squirrel + grapes.
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Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:36 pm

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DailyTX
Firing does look a little better. These are interesting pots for examining old hand built techniques. I’ve got one of the square shapes w/ Squirrel + grapes.
@Chadrinkincat
I agree, instead buying a zisha book on how yixing zisha pots are made, get one of those imported pots, and see the details first hand. With technology and improved tools, I often pull those two pots out to compare newer pots.
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Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:35 pm

DailyTX wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:36 pm
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Wed Dec 18, 2019 12:44 pm
DailyTX
Firing does look a little better. These are interesting pots for examining old hand built techniques. I’ve got one of the square shapes w/ Squirrel + grapes.
Chadrinkincat
I agree, instead buying a zisha book on how yixing zisha pots are made, get one of those imported pots, and see the details first hand. With technology and improved tools, I often pull those two pots out to compare newer pots.
Also helps to take up a pottery class. A lot of things make sense when you tried it yourself. At least for me that increased my ability to intuitively judge if something has been made by hand or not. And to understand how some firing defaults come to be.

Books are mostly useless, as they don’t show enough of the pots. Good as a shopping list though hahaha
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Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:33 pm

Bok wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:35 pm
DailyTX wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:36 pm
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Wed Dec 18, 2019 12:44 pm
DailyTX
Firing does look a little better. These are interesting pots for examining old hand built techniques. I’ve got one of the square shapes w/ Squirrel + grapes.
Chadrinkincat
I agree, instead buying a zisha book on how yixing zisha pots are made, get one of those imported pots, and see the details first hand. With technology and improved tools, I often pull those two pots out to compare newer pots.
Also helps to take up a pottery class. A lot of things make sense when you tried it yourself. At least for me that increased my ability to intuitively judge if something has been made by hand or not. And to understand how some firing defaults come to be.

Books are mostly useless, as they don’t show enough of the pots. Good as a shopping list though hahaha
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Going back to the question of authenticity, do you believe it’s pre-factory? I am pretty certain the round one could be, but the square one...is questionable lol
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Chadrinkincat and Bok
Going back to the question of authenticity, do you believe it’s pre-factory? I am pretty certain the round one could be, but the square one...is questionable lol
As far as the clay texture goes, it looks pre-factory to me. Low-quality and fired Zisha. But I am not so firm on dating square-kind of pots, so not sure. The patina and aging of the first one looks real enough though. Can't be 100% sure.
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Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:51 am

What do you think about this pot? I can later show you a picture of the inside if necessary. I have not found more information about it online. Maybe I used the wrong search terms. :?
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DailyTX wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:33 pm
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Chadrinkincat
I agree, instead buying a zisha book on how yixing zisha pots are made, get one of those imported pots, and see the details first hand. With technology and improved tools, I often pull those two pots out to compare newer pots.
Also helps to take up a pottery class. A lot of things make sense when you tried it yourself. At least for me that increased my ability to intuitively judge if something has been made by hand or not. And to understand how some firing defaults come to be.

Books are mostly useless, as they don’t show enough of the pots. Good as a shopping list though hahaha
Chadrinkincat and Bok
Going back to the question of authenticity, do you believe it’s pre-factory? I am pretty certain the round one could be, but the square one...is questionable lol
Can’t link to this post but you can search for it. Might be useful if it has one of those seals.
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Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:17 am

This is what the pot looks from the inside. Sorry for the bad quality.
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Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:59 pm

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Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:17 am
This is what the pot looks from the inside. Sorry for the bad quality.
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Looks like 90s onward pot, most likely molded. A few photos of the lid from outside and inner would help.
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Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:01 pm

Chadrinkincat wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:16 am
DailyTX wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:33 pm
Bok wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:35 pm

Also helps to take up a pottery class. A lot of things make sense when you tried it yourself. At least for me that increased my ability to intuitively judge if something has been made by hand or not. And to understand how some firing defaults come to be.

Books are mostly useless, as they don’t show enough of the pots. Good as a shopping list though hahaha
Chadrinkincat and Bok
Going back to the question of authenticity, do you believe it’s pre-factory? I am pretty certain the round one could be, but the square one...is questionable lol
Can’t link to this post but you can search for it. Might be useful if it has one of those seals.
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Can you forward me the link through private chat please? :)
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Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:38 pm

@Mark-S agreed, that pot looks modern but to me.
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Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:28 am

Fortunately, I had not bought it yet. Thanks for your opinion on the pot. :mrgreen:
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