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Just as a follow up I had the pics sent to a well-known trustworthy pot expert that informed it is a wear down trace. That is something that happens in Taiwan at some occasions for better lid fit. Just sharing the information.

Those bare spots on the rim could be a wear down, but the big spot on the lid skirt looks more like it wasn't coated there. Usually grinding of a fired pot would produce a smooth surface, not a pitted one like one can see on the lid.

[olivierd]

Those bare spots on the rim could be a wear down, but the big spot on the lid skirt looks more like it wasn't coated there. Usually grinding of a fired pot would produce a smooth surface, not a pitted one like one can see on the lid.

Interesting comments, as much as other people ones. My questioning would be that why this particular area would not be coated since it’s in my view an easy one to coat far easier than inside for instance. Not that I’m challenging anyone’s comments or I want by force the pot to be 70s or antique. Just wondering.

[Bok]

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Interesting comments, as much as other people ones. My questioning would be that why this particular area would not be coated since it’s in my view an easy one to coat far easier than inside for instance. Not that I’m challenging anyone’s comments or I want by force the pot to be 70s or antique. Just wondering.

This pot will never be antique until a few more decades pass

Your point about the spout is valid.

But the fact remains that this pot is not fully made of Hongni. So, that would actually lead us to the more annoying possibility that it’s a fake.

Or still a sloppily executed Neiwailinjiang, which is possible, the quality of the coating on many of these is really, really low. Usually worst on the Biaozhun Shuipings.

It’s either a Neiwailinjiang or a fake. I don’t see any other valid explanations.

[steanze]

But the fact remains that this pot is not fully made of Hongni. So, that would actually lead us to the more annoying possibility that it’s a fake.

Or still a sloppily executed Neiwailinjiang, which is possible, the quality of the coating on many of these is really, really low. Usually worst on the Biaozhun Shuipings.

It’s either a Neiwailinjiang or a fake. I don’t see any other valid explanations.

+1, the key point is that if it were a 70s hongni it would not be brown inside. Chipped 70s hongni is still red inside.

[Rmt]

Picked up this huge pot yesterday, and cleaned it up a bit. Clay seems similar to my headless ox pot. I seem to remember this shape from the f2 catalog, but I only find the scans in tiny resolution. Could this be a factory pot? It has a clay filter basket, and some makers marks. I’ll take some more photos later. Can be practically used filled with around 1200-1400ml water.

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(90ml pot for scale)

Probably nothing interesting but curious about it regardless. It was super stained and dusty when I picked up from a store selling used goods. Not sure if I’ll ever use it for anything, but it only cost me around 5$

[olivierd]

But the fact remains that this pot is not fully made of Hongni. So, that would actually lead us to the more annoying possibility that it’s a fake.

Or still a sloppily executed Neiwailinjiang, which is possible, the quality of the coating on many of these is really, really low. Usually worst on the Biaozhun Shuipings.

It’s either a Neiwailinjiang or a fake. I don’t see any other valid explanations.

+1, the key point is that if it were a 70s hongni it would not be brown inside. Chipped 70s hongni is still red inside.

Thanks for the inside.
If neiwailinjiang, so not 70s but possibly green label, shouldn’t the seal be 6 characters ? Also the forming of the air hole inside the lid shouldn’t it be flat ?

[Bok]

@olivierd there is Neiwailinjiang in the 70s, mainly green label period so 1977 onwards...

That air hole looks actually more like 1960, which is a further question mark.

[olivierd]

olivierd there is Neiwailinjiang in the 70s, mainly green label period so 1977 onwards...

That air hole looks actually more like 1960, which is a further question mark.

Yes, and green label is mengchen stamp right (6-c) ?
There is a similar inside lid shape example here.

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[Bok]

olivierd there is Neiwailinjiang in the 70s, mainly green label period so 1977 onwards...

That air hole looks actually more like 1960, which is a further question mark.

Yes, and green label is mengchen stamp right (6-c) ?
There is a similar inside lid shape example here.

That one is early 70s and Hongni.

Green label has more than one seal chop the four character one also among them. Mengchen is more later towards 80s if I’m not mistaken. But my knowledge gets kind of sketchy if it becomes younger than 1960s, so I might be wrong.

[steanze]

Green label has more than one seal chop the four character one also among them. Mengchen is more later towards 80s if I’m not mistaken. But my knowledge gets kind of sketchy if it becomes younger than 1960s, so I might be wrong.

That's right, green label is 1977-1982, in the late 70s you still see the 4 character zgyx seal, the hui mengchen 6 character seals are then usually seen in the early 80s.
The underside of the lid is odd I agree, it looks like the style of 60s... also, the seal is a bit strange, it does not look quite like late 60s to 70s zgyx seals I have seen on hongni F1 pots.

One possibility is that this is a modern replica where they mixed some features from different periods. Another possibility is that it is a very unusual neiwailinjiang.

[.m.]

Picked up this huge pot yesterday, and cleaned it up a bit. Clay seems similar to my headless ox pot. I seem to remember this shape from the f2 catalog, but I only find the scans in tiny resolution. Could this be a factory pot? It has a clay filter basket, and some makers marks. I’ll take some more photos later. Can be practically used filled with around 1200-1400ml water.


(90ml pot for scale)

Probably nothing interesting but curious about it regardless. It was super stained and dusty when I picked up from a store selling used goods. Not sure if I’ll ever use it for anything, but it only cost me around 5$

Quite possibly F1 from the green label period. Good score! Some F1 pots have been exported in the 80's to France and other European countries, and it's not that uncommon to come across these big pots.

[Rmt]

Picked up this huge pot yesterday, and cleaned it up a bit. Clay seems similar to my headless ox pot. I seem to remember this shape from the f2 catalog, but I only find the scans in tiny resolution. Could this be a factory pot? It has a clay filter basket, and some makers marks. I’ll take some more photos later. Can be practically used filled with around 1200-1400ml water.


(90ml pot for scale)

Probably nothing interesting but curious about it regardless. It was super stained and dusty when I picked up from a store selling used goods. Not sure if I’ll ever use it for anything, but it only cost me around 5$

Quite possibly F1 from the green label period. Good score! Some F1 pots have been exported in the 80's to France and other European countries, and it's not that uncommon to come across these big pots.

Cool! I’ve been googling around and I was guessing 80s too due to the style of the strainer basket. Found a few other examples online and this one is very similar.

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I’ve seen pots like this before here, but they tend to be glazed, clay looks weird, look like they’re thrown on a wheel, lack stamps or look wonky in other ways.

It’s still really stinky and grimy so I’ll have to keep soaking and cleaning it...

[DailyTX]

@Rmt
Looks like a 70s pot, Emmetts has photos of the same style 1000ml. Nice fine! It would make a good pot of Shu Puerh for family gatherings

https://emmettsteas.weebly.com/sold-gallery.html

[Chadrinkincat]

@Rmt

I have one of these too.

What’s w/ the base seal on this pot? The characters are in an abnormal configuration.

[Victoria]

Rmt
Looks like a 70s pot, Emmetts has photos of the same style 1000ml. Nice fine! It would make a good pot of Shu Puerh for family gatherings

https://emmettsteas.weebly.com/sold-gallery.html

Interesting that Emmet says “ Not recommended for use on heating element as its purpose is for use as a teapot to brew tea, not to boil water.” I have similar terracotta kettles that I’ve used on infrared hot plate with no issues. Wonder if there is a notable difference? I could see boiling tea in these kettles with baskets.

@KyaraZen posted his 70s kettle/teapot on a heating element that looks like yours @@Rmt