It's a Factory pot and I have seen some from F1. I have a F2 version of the same pot. So far, brews one of the best LiuBao (BlackTea) I've ever had.
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Nice, another pot to look out for then.
ThanksThe comments on this pot weren't conclusive in my opinion. So who knows... maybe it's not that bad.
Yeah, I think that's a better idea. I also got some older run-of-the-mill pots. They are interesting but not worth €180 in my opinion.
There are sometimes good pots on eBay and similar sites, but they are not inexpensive. For example, I bid about $250 on this teapot today: https://www.ebay.com/itm/174260150820 Unfortunately, it was not enough. It was sold for $350 including shipping.
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Velkommen til TeaForum, haha
(... and now I know I'm not the only one following the teapot listings on Finn. Probably not going to find anything worth buying there in a couple of lifetimes, though.)
If you're looking for a modern day replica, then dang! you missed it. If you were aiming for a GongJu 贡局 pot, then thank your lucky star someone outbid you.... hahahahaha...Mark-S wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 3:02 am
There are sometimes good pots on eBay and similar sites, but they are not inexpensive. For example, I bid about $250 on this teapot today: https://www.ebay.com/itm/174260150820 Unfortunately, it was not enough. It was sold for $350 including shipping.
Cheers!!
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Why do you think that this is a modern replica? I have seen the identical GongJu makers mark on several auctions (not eBay, professional ones
) labled as Qing Dynasty. The clay also does not look modern to me, but ok, I am still a newbie and not experienced with Zhuni at all. 
By the way, you can take a look at the description for more images of this pot.
Why do you think that this is a modern replica? I have seen the identical GongJu makers mark on several auctions (not eBay, professional ones
) labled as Qing Dynasty. The clay also does not look modern to me, but ok, I am still a newbie and not experienced with Zhuni at all. By the way, you can take a look at the description for more images of this pot.@OCTO
And could you please tell me if that's "black bone" and why do you think that this pot is a replica? Sorry, if you have already answered this. I am interested in this topic, and I have only heard of "black bone" twice.
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And could you please tell me if that's "black bone" and why do you think that this pot is a replica? Sorry, if you have already answered this. I am interested in this topic, and I have only heard of "black bone" twice.
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That is a very obvious replica, don’t even need more than that one image...Mark-S wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 5:14 amOCTO
Why do you think that this is a modern replica? I have seen the identical GongJu makers mark on several auctions (not eBay, professional ones
Sorry to be blunt, but you should by now have realised that you can not trust your own judgement on age/clay/etc.
Get some books and study them, no point wasting your money without knowing what you’re doing... first rule in antiques is: only buy what you understand.
That’s just dirt...Mark-S wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 5:25 amOCTO
And could you please tell me if that's "black bone" and why do you think that this pot is a replica? Sorry, if you have already answered this. I am interested in this topic, and I have only heard of "black bone" twice.
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Black bone looks like this:
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@Mark-S also the makers mark is worth nothing. That is the least important thing to consider when authenticating. It’s the easiest and most widely faked part of the pot... some even use original old chops to do it, so real chop but fake pot...
Can you recommend a book? Lu's book does not cover these pots I think. IBok wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 5:32 amThat is a very obvious replica, don’t even need more than that one image...
Sorry to be blunt, but you should by now have realised that you can not trust your own judgement on age/clay/etc.
Get some books and study them, no point wasting your money without knowing what you’re doing... first rule in antiques is: only buy what you understand.
have already got multiple catalogues and have seen a bunch of pots on offline auctions, but apparently you cannot trust the information you get from these sources in the West (?)
Okay, thanks, I googled this term but could not find more about it, and no one answered .m.'s question before. Maybe some of my questions are stupid, but you don't get this kind of information easily.
Your questions are not stupid, but you are too confident in your own judgement, which is dangerous for your wallet... just assume that almost everything you see is a fake or replica if it doesn’t cost more than what you are willing to spend. A gongju pot like the one above but real, would cost several 1000s of $. Very, very unlikely that it would ever be as low as 300-400$. Zero. So that is an indication that works even without having the faintest ideas of how the workmanship should look like.
There is one publisher specialising in old pot books in Taiwan. But I am not aware of they do international shipping. I can check.
There is one publisher specialising in old pot books in Taiwan. But I am not aware of they do international shipping. I can check.