@Youzi... was doing some homework on your pot.
This is a Factory pot made in the 1980s. Artist name is Feng Hong-Mei 冯红妹.
Cheers!
Yixing
Trust is a fine thing, but has no place in the antique/vintage game... and sellers can be wrong as well! Happens all the time. And some seller do mix a little doubtful items in between authentic ones. One guy here in Taiwan, although highly respected, just conveniently dates some items a tiny bit older than they are. Still authentic, but just becomes a little more expensive like that...
A couple of things I find interesting about that pot - first, the clay texture looks a bit like hei-xing-tu, but it seems a little bit coarser than hei-xing-tu in the earlier-mid part of 1980s. Second, there is a bit of imprecision in the lid shaping, which should not be attributable to shrinkage during firing since this is zini and does not have such a high contraction rate. This suggest a bit coarser workmanship, and named pots from earlier-mid 80s were a little bit finer. These details make me think more about late 80s, but I cannot be sure.
uhh I've seen sellers claim all kind of things as green label. Sometimes the seller themselves don't know their pot is a fake.
I haven't seen the pot so you may be right that it is authentic. But please don't take a seller's word for it...
I have come across one that even offered if I wanted the pot to come with green label sticker or without... thinking I was a reseller. Pots with factory stickers fetch a higher price from unsuspecting buyers.
Cheers!!!
@.m.
And you don't find the sticker suspicious? Some people say that every sticker of the green label period has to look the same because F1 was state-owned, and some say that they can differ. It's really confusing.
Thanks for the pictures
@Chadrinkincat
If I rembember correctly my pots have multi hole filters.
@OCTO
I bought them because they were quite inexpensive, and I wanted to have similar F1 pots to see how much they differ in style and clay. The design is practical for daily use, but I like the smaller versions better. This large one is a bit too large for me. This is more a family pot.
@Bok
@steanze
He was selling his own collection, and he did not want much money for this pot. I also checked pictures of similar pots online, and I got no reason to question this claim.
And you don't find the sticker suspicious? Some people say that every sticker of the green label period has to look the same because F1 was state-owned, and some say that they can differ. It's really confusing.
Thanks for the pictures
@Chadrinkincat
If I rembember correctly my pots have multi hole filters.
@OCTO
I bought them because they were quite inexpensive, and I wanted to have similar F1 pots to see how much they differ in style and clay. The design is practical for daily use, but I like the smaller versions better. This large one is a bit too large for me. This is more a family pot.
@Bok
@steanze
He was selling his own collection, and he did not want much money for this pot. I also checked pictures of similar pots online, and I got no reason to question this claim.
You don't need a reason to question a seller's claim. Questioning should be the default attitude.
What I am trying to say is not that this particular pot was a wrong purchase, but that you might want to revise the criteria you use to evaluate the authenticity of pots, because otherwise things might get expensive down the road. I hope this helps.
@steanze
The problem is that I often don't have enough time to search for a pot before buying it. The price for the squirrel pot for example increased about $25 because I waited too long. Another customer outbid me shortly after my first offer. And I know that other collectors even from this forum are also quite active on eBay. But I am getting better in the evaluation of F1 pots I think, and for future purchases I'll follow @Chadrinkincat's advice:
The problem is that I often don't have enough time to search for a pot before buying it. The price for the squirrel pot for example increased about $25 because I waited too long. Another customer outbid me shortly after my first offer. And I know that other collectors even from this forum are also quite active on eBay. But I am getting better in the evaluation of F1 pots I think, and for future purchases I'll follow @Chadrinkincat's advice:
I don’t have enough knowledge or experience to be certain of the validity of either side which is why I think it is wise to pursue the pots w/ better craftsmanship and just avoid the ones w/ questionable details.
It's the middle sticker in this photo, right? It is definitely different (the alignment of the letters) than the stickers i've seen. What does dr. Lu's book say? Were there different batches printed?
While a fake sticker on authentic pot wouldn't be inconceivable, it definitely creates questions.
I understand... from my perspective , paying an extra $25 is worth it if it helps you to make sure the pot is authentic. There are a lot of fakes, and the risk is to buy 10-15 pots of which none of them is authentic. Better to spend a bit more and get fewer, better pots.Mark-S wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:42 amsteanze
The problem is that I often don't have enough time to search for a pot before buying it. The price for the squirrel pot for example increased about $25 because I waited too long. Another customer outbid me shortly after my first offer. And I know that other collectors even from this forum are also quite active on eBay. But I am getting better in the evaluation of F1 pots I think, and for future purchases I'll follow Chadrinkincat's advice:
@Mark-S
I'm kind of not sure, but Why don't you just buy 1 definitely real f1 from the 70s instead of buying seemingly so many random pots from ebay?
I'm a bit worried for you, that you waste too much money on some of these random ebay pots. :-/
I'm kind of not sure, but Why don't you just buy 1 definitely real f1 from the 70s instead of buying seemingly so many random pots from ebay?
I'm a bit worried for you, that you waste too much money on some of these random ebay pots. :-/
You are welcome! That period sounds about right. Distinguishing between late 80s and early 90s is very hard - above my pay grade
