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[Youzi]

This will be my first "Can you identify this teapot?" post. I know nothing about this teapot. I got it as a gift from a Grandma in Shanghai.

More pictures.

[Mark-S]

It is a risky assumption to compare clay to your own existing, unverified collection, don't you think?

Nah! They can't be all wrong.

Are you referring to your Dragon Pot?

No, I know the dragon teapot is authentic. No need to confirm or question that. I was asking about the other teapot (viewtopic.php?p=21054#p21054). If you think that's clearly a fake I would like to hear a reason for it. If even Chinese guys think that this one is genuine it can't be that obvious, can it?

The link is not broken, but you cannot see posts of private groups I guess. https://m.facebook.com/groups/1423966571197955/ It's another Facebook group with lots of vintage teapots.

@Balthazar
I got my teapots from eBay and different sites similar to eBay. I also looked at flea markets but that did not work well. Professional auction houses are way too pricey in my opinion.

[Mark-S]

... and it's for sale again. So it's possible this set is not so good after all, and I am not the only one getting it wrong sometimes. At least I don't pay this much for my pots.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/293555391267

[Bok]

No, I know the dragon teapot is authentic. No need to confirm or question that.

How do you know? Authentic what? Green label? It can also be an authentic F1, but with a sticker from the wrong period for example

Professional auction houses are way too pricey in my opinion.

Pricey, or the price of what those items are worth if authentic

[Chadrinkincat]

@Mark-S
The bark on your 3friends pot looks like it is erratic and poorly done compared to mine.

The overall craftsmanship of each of mine varies slightly but none seem to stand out as being different. I think these are all authentic but than again i can’t be 100% either.

I’m not sure it’s possible for anyone to fully access your squirrel and grape pot from 1-2 pictures but at first glance it looks similar to supposed late 80’s version from FB groups. Although spout and handle seems a bit funny to me.

You can probably post your decorative pots to that other FB group and get some of their opinions.

It’s funny how some people claim F1 has consistent quality of details while others insist that these mass produced pots can have many things wrong and still be F1. I don’t have enough knowledge or experience to be certain of the validity of either side which is why I think it is wise to pursue the pots w/ better craftsmanship and just avoid the ones w/ questionable details.

[Chadrinkincat]

... and it's for sale again. So it's possible this set is not so good after all, and I am not the only one getting it wrong sometimes. At least I don't pay this much for my pots.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/293555391267

guess seller backed out or it was shill bidding to drive up price.

[Bok]

This will be my first "Can you identify this teapot?" post. I know nothing about this teapot. I got it as a gift from a Grandma in Shanghai.

Can only say - not older than 80s

[steanze]

... but then again during the Revolution era, no names are allowed to be branded on the outer surface of the pot. If there is such a the case, the potter faces an impending death sentence. That's why you often see names, if any, under the lid where it's hidden from plain sight.

^^ this. In some cases names can be stamped on the base, as in the famous "ting ji" pots.

When exactly did the Revolution era end? There are also some F1 pots with the name on the bottom of the handle. My squirrel pot is an example for this practice. And no, I don't think it's also a replica.

The cultural revolution era ended in 1976. Of course there are F1 pots with the name on the bottom - F1 was operational also in the '80s and '90s. Squirrel pots start being made in the '80s.

[Chadrinkincat]

No, I know the dragon teapot is authentic. No need to confirm or question that.

How do you know? Authentic what? Green label? It can also be an authentic F1, but with a sticker from the wrong period for example

Professional auction houses are way too pricey in my opinion.

Pricey, or the price of what those items are worth if authentic

I don’t think professional auction houses in the west even sell run of the mill damage ROC pots or 30-40yr old F1 stuff anyway.

[.m.]

I was asking about the other teapot (viewtopic.php?p=21054#p21054). If you think that's clearly a fake I would like to hear a reason for it. If even Chinese guys think that this one is genuine it can't be that obvious, can it?

I can't tell you if the kettle is authentic, definitely not from just one photo. Personally, i don't see anything wrong there. There are different versions of zini/QSN during the green label. Also the handles came in both styles, not that one could judge a pot from a handle.

[Chadrinkincat]

I was asking about the other teapot (viewtopic.php?p=21054#p21054). If you think that's clearly a fake I would like to hear a reason for it. If even Chinese guys think that this one is genuine it can't be that obvious, can it?

I can't tell you if the kettle is authentic, definitely not from just one photo. Personally, i don't see anything wrong there. There are different versions of zini/QSN during the green label. Also the handles came in both styles, not that one could judge a pot from a handle.

I own a couple of these but I haven’t had much luck finding info about It. These have a filter basket inside which Isn’t displayed in F1 catalogues that I’ve seen so hard to be certain what the proper configuration is for the holes.

[steanze]

This will be my first "Can you identify this teapot?" post. I know nothing about this teapot. I got it as a gift from a Grandma in Shanghai.

More pictures.

I think this is a late 80s or 90s teapot.

[Mark-S]

It’s funny how some people claim F1 has consistent quality of details while others insist that these mass produced pots can have many things wrong and still be F1.

Yeah, I noticed that too.

Thanks for your answer. After the corona crisis I will post pictures of my pots in the Facebook group. But before I do that I have to find the right setting for it so my pots don't look shitty. Product photography is much harder than I thought.

@Bok

I know it's authentic green label because I trust the seller with his opinion.

No, I think they are just expensive because the customers have more money to spend and they don't have to look for it on eBay. For example, they sell the same stuff EoT sells for more money.

[OCTO]

No, I know the dragon teapot is authentic. No need to confirm or question that. I was asking about the other teapot (viewtopic.php?p=21054#p21054). If you think that's clearly a fake I would like to hear a reason for it. If even Chinese guys think that this one is genuine it can't be that obvious, can it?

@Mark-S

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I am unable to verify the authenticity of the pot for you. These TiLiang pots are seldom sought after by collectors. But I would take a look at them if I come across one from Qing dynasty. Other than from that Era, it's not worth collecting unless you fancy the design of the pot.

As for claims made by China Mainland sellers, I would always cross reference their claims.

Cheers!!

[.m.]

I was asking about the other teapot (viewtopic.php?p=21054#p21054). If you think that's clearly a fake I would like to hear a reason for it. If even Chinese guys think that this one is genuine it can't be that obvious, can it?

I can't tell you if the kettle is authentic, definitely not from just one photo. Personally, i don't see anything wrong there. There are different versions of zini/QSN during the green label. Also the handles came in both styles, not that one could judge a pot from a handle.

I own a couple of these but I haven’t had much luck finding info about It. These have a filter basket inside which Isn’t displayed in F1 catalogues that I’ve seen so hard to be certain what the proper configuration is for the holes.

I have 2, one big and one small, different clays, different handles, different craftsmanship, and very different baskets. Here's the bigger one (with better craftsmanship), don't have a picture of the smaller one.