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Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:30 pm

alejandro2high wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:10 pm

Is it 100% certain to nobody was producing pots between those times outside of factories?

The pot is from the 80s which fits the narrative, but I'm just curious as to all the info. I consider something from the 80s as vintage, but that just might be because of my age.
Yes pre 1984 there aren't "outside-factory" pots as far as I know. This is a hotly debated issue sometimes because the "outside factory" excuse is sometimes used by sellers to convince buyers that their pot is really from the 70s even though it does not look like any other known pot from that period :)

Yours could be 80s or 90s, hard to tell, the clay looks pretty good so I'd focus on that, it is a functional pot so the precise age does not really matter too much.
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Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:34 pm

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Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:18 pm

I got the pot from Daniel at The Chinese Tea Shop. It might be possible, in accordance to what you're saying, that the pot is from the 90s and not the 80s.
Then again.... it's a never ending debate... between 1989 and 1990, how does one define the era accurately??? Almost impossible! We have seen early 90s pot bearing late 80s seal and workmanship... Unless you know the release date of the batch of teapots, it's almost impossible to ascertain an exact year.

Cheers!
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Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:35 pm

steanze wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:30 pm
Yours could be 80s or 90s, hard to tell, the clay looks pretty good so I'd focus on that, it is a functional pot so the precise age does not really matter too much.
BINGO!! +1 @steanze
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Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:38 pm

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Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:29 pm

Indeed. The biggest reason I bought the pot was Daniel's reputation.
That's a good starting point. It's good to purchase and learn from reputable sellers... more so one who owns his/her own teashop.

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Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:39 pm

steanze wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:30 pm
alejandro2high wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:10 pm

Is it 100% certain to nobody was producing pots between those times outside of factories?

The pot is from the 80s which fits the narrative, but I'm just curious as to all the info. I consider something from the 80s as vintage, but that just might be because of my age.
Yes pre 1984 there aren't "outside-factory" pots as far as I know. This is a hotly debated issue sometimes because the "outside factory" excuse is sometimes used by sellers to convince buyers that their pot is really from the 70s even though it does not look like any other known pot from that period :)

Yours could be 80s or 90s, hard to tell, the clay looks pretty good so I'd focus on that, it is a functional pot so the precise age does not really matter too much.
I see. Well I'm glad this pot falls in with that. The clay is something that is definitely of superior quality which is why I wasn't too stressed about it being from the 90s not the 80s, but it seems it would be possible for it to be post 1984.
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Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:41 pm

OCTO wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:34 pm
alejandro2high wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:18 pm

I got the pot from Daniel at The Chinese Tea Shop. It might be possible, in accordance to what you're saying, that the pot is from the 90s and not the 80s.
Then again.... it's a never ending debate... between 1989 and 1990, how does one define the era accurately??? Almost impossible! We have seen early 90s pot bearing late 80s seal and workmanship... Unless you know the release date of the batch of teapots, it's almost impossible to ascertain an exact year.

Cheers!
Exactly! The world of Yixing, I am constantly learning, is a world full of few truths and many murky beliefs. Thanks for all the info. Greatly appreciated 🙏
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Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:41 pm

even more important – does it make good tea!?
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Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:47 pm

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even more important – does it make good tea!?
You'll be glad to know that it does 😁 It makes water sweet which results in tea that is full-bodied and rounded. I've been using it with old/oldish sheng that still has a little bit of bitterness. My other QSN pot has a stronger sweeting affect, and I've dedicated it to Green Oolongs.
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Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:48 pm

alejandro2high wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:47 pm
Bok wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:41 pm
even more important – does it make good tea!?
You'll be glad to know that it does 😁 It makes water sweet which results in tea that is full-bodied and rounded. I've been using it with old/oldish sheng that still has a little bit of bitterness. My other QSN pot has a stronger sweeting affect, and I've dedicated it to Green Oolongs.
Nice :) Try to use a thin porcelain gaiwan for the green oolongs ;) lid off between one infusion and the next
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Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:00 pm

steanze wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:48 pm
alejandro2high wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:47 pm
Bok wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:41 pm
even more important – does it make good tea!?
You'll be glad to know that it does 😁 It makes water sweet which results in tea that is full-bodied and rounded. I've been using it with old/oldish sheng that still has a little bit of bitterness. My other QSN pot has a stronger sweeting affect, and I've dedicated it to Green Oolongs.
Nice :) Try to use a thin porcelain gaiwan for the green oolongs ;) lid off between one infusion and the next
Thanks for the recommendation, but I prefer a nice clay pot for oolongs. I have a super nice wood fired and hand painted gai wan that I use for delicate teas, but I don't think a gai wan can stand next to a pot that's been seasoned with high grade Tie Guan Yin. I've tried brewing green oolongs in porcelain, modern zhuni, aged zhuni clay, and qing shui ni, and my favorite is between either zhuni or the QSN. The only reason I lean toward the QSN is the sweetening effect that my QSN pot has on water which results in a great tasting and full-bodied oolong.
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The only reason I lean toward the QSN is the sweetening effect that my QSN pot has on water which results in a great tasting and full-bodied oolong.
I am with you on this one! Not the same clay, but I use Duanni for my greener oolongs for the same reasons: increased body!
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Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:08 pm

Bok wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:02 pm
alejandro2high wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:00 pm
The only reason I lean toward the QSN is the sweetening effect that my QSN pot has on water which results in a great tasting and full-bodied oolong.
I am with you on this one! Not the same clay, but I use Duanni for my greener oolongs for the same reasons: increased body!
Duanni for green oolongs? I'm definitely going to have to try this. I find my duanni pot to be extremely mutting, but I have a new duanni pot coming in that I believe is higher fired which I'll be sure to try with my favorite tie guan yin.
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Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:27 pm
... but then again during the Revolution era, no names are allowed to be branded on the outer surface of the pot. If there is such a the case, the potter faces an impending death sentence. That's why you often see names, if any, under the lid where it's hidden from plain sight.
When exactly did the Revolution era end? There are also some F1 pots with the name on the bottom of the handle. My squirrel pot is an example for this practice. And no, I don't think it's also a replica. :lol:
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Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:17 pm

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And no, I don't think it's also a replica. :lol:
Thinking is not the same a knowing :lol:
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