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Baisao
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Mon Aug 15, 2022 1:10 am

teapotter wrote:
Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:11 pm
Baisao Thank you for the reply, then I assumed that would be the same case for this teapot also?
Here is the link( from the same seller as well):
https://www.etsy.com/fi-en/listing/9658 ... apot-f2136
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Yes. These are very low quality pots, made using industrial processes, and dubious materials. They are fine as an ornaments but I wouldn’t consume anything from them. I doubt the seller has other Yixing pots that are worthwhile if they are selling these.

A heavily ornamental, handmade Yixing teapot will likely cost a lot.

You may want to start a thread for teapot recommendations based upon what you are you wanting to use a Yixing teapot for.
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Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:45 am

I've been complaining recently about what I see as a subpar craftsmanship on a modern zhuni pot, that has a craquelure inside on the bottom. I'd love to hear your opinion about it.

@Youzi, does yours look the same?
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Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:16 pm

polezaivsani wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:45 am
I've been complaining recently about what I see as a subpar craftsmanship on a modern zhuni pot, that has a craquelure inside on the bottom. I'd love to hear your opinion about it.

Youzi, does yours look the same?

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Looks similar to kiln cracks but it’s very centralized. Interesting 🤔
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Sat Aug 20, 2022 3:35 am

polezaivsani wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:45 am
I've been complaining recently about what I see as a subpar craftsmanship on a modern zhuni pot, that has a craquelure inside on the bottom. I'd love to hear your opinion about it.

Youzi, does yours look the same?

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Can you take pictures from more angles? Due to shadows it’s hard to judge if those are cracks or just clay left over from the scraping of the bottom, like it looked like on your other picture.
The best way to tell is by touch, which only you can do.

Does the surface feels smooth or does it have bumps and specks?
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Sat Aug 20, 2022 12:50 pm

Did Factory 1 make any tall Shui Pings like this one https://zishaartgallery.com/product/%e7 ... b6-za0231/ pre-77?
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Sat Aug 20, 2022 1:35 pm

Bourder wrote:
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Did Factory 1 make any tall Shui Pings like this one https://zishaartgallery.com/product/%e7 ... b6-za0231/ pre-77?
Nope, not that I'm aware of. Closest, which isn't even that close, would be guava pots or I believe they are called xian paio (not sure on that spelling, someone please correct me)
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Nope, not that I'm aware of. Closest, which isn't even that close, would be guava pots or I believe they are called xian paio (not sure on that spelling, someone please correct me)
Thanks for the reply. The reason I'm asking is because I like the frontal look on the teapot I posted more than on regular ones. Though, every Shui Ping seems to look a little bit different and there are those that I like, at every size. There's a lot of variation.
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Bourder wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 2:00 pm
Teachronicles wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 1:35 pm
Nope, not that I'm aware of. Closest, which isn't even that close, would be guava pots or I believe they are called xian paio (not sure on that spelling, someone please correct me)
Thanks for the reply. The reason I'm asking is because I like the frontal look on the teapot I posted more than on regular ones. Though, every Shui Ping seems to look a little bit different and there are those that I like, at every size. There's a lot of variation.
Yup, every era looks a bit different, tho those within each era have similarities. I believe due to the fact that standard molds were used and changed in each era. (again, someone please correct me if anythings wrong here)
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I picked up this big boy today. Got zero info on it but I guess its zisha.
Its around 800 ml filled to the brim. Would appreciate any info on it.

I do believe the guy I bought it from had poured bong water in it. I've gotten most the smell out but still needs work
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Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:44 am

I also like the kind of taller almost guava shaped shui ping look, but with stubbier spouts. The ones I've seen (that aren't modern, and even then doesn't seem a super popular/common shape) are pre-factory I believe - and maybe would more likely be considered predecessors of the apple/black apple shape rather than what we consider 'shui ping'
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Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:36 am

Youzi wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 3:35 am
Can you take pictures from more angles? Due to shadows it’s hard to judge if those are cracks or just clay left over from the scraping of the bottom, like it looked like on your other picture.
The best way to tell is by touch, which only you can do.

Does the surface feels smooth or does it have bumps and specks?
Here are couple shots taken at around 45 degrees increment. The white specks in the cracks must be some mineral sediment that withheld sodium bicarb and citric acid baths. They rather glistening bits rather than white, it's my lousy photo rig showing them as such. My tactile sensibility lacks the resolution to tell the cracks from bumps, the whole patch is a bit noisy to the touch, but they don't feel (nor seem) like a tiny bits of left from the shaping and cutting.
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Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:02 pm

Welcome @GailC!!

Interesting pot. Can you share more photos of the pot?? Inside, filter hole, under side of the lid, base of the pot, front and back profile view of the pot.

Thanks 🙏🏻

Cheers!!
GailC wrote:
Sat Aug 20, 2022 9:52 pm
I picked up this big boy today. Got zero info on it but I guess its zisha.
Its around 800 ml filled to the brim. Would appreciate any info on it.

I do believe the guy I bought it from had poured bong water in it. I've gotten most the smell out but still needs work
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Tue Aug 23, 2022 12:46 pm

OCTO wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:02 pm
Welcome GailC!!

Interesting pot. Can you share more photos of the pot?? Inside, filter hole, under side of the lid, base of the pot, front and back profile view of the pot.

Thanks 🙏🏻

Cheers!!
Thank you. I uploaded a bunch here, didn't want to go picture crazy on the forum.



It seems to be low quality craftsmanship, the lid is quite loose and it dribbles if poured too fast or if the pot is filled all the way up.
Pour is slow and choppy. The spout does have chunks inside, I'm working to get it smoothed out.
Managed to remove the weird smell, brewing
pu-er to start seasoning it.
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Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:13 pm

@GailC That is a nice pot. I'm guessing it is a pre-factory production (ROC to 50s), but wait for the opinion of others. In any case a good score. :mrgreen:

Here is a similar one: https://www.facebook.com/singaporeyixin ... 6676554252
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Tue Aug 23, 2022 8:42 pm

.m. wrote:
Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:13 pm
GailC That is a nice pot. I'm guessing it is a pre-factory production (ROC to 50s), but wait for the opinion of others. In any case a good score. :mrgreen:

Here is a similar one: https://www.facebook.com/singaporeyixin ... 6676554252
Thank you. That pot looks very similar and I believe the chop is the same.

I was in contact with a lady from china.and she was able to tell me a little about it.

The characters are “清都入妙透,花影而寒深。岩如作。”
It’s a poem by 岩如 (Yan Ru) (1900-1957), he was a famous calligrapher and sculptor often employed by the tea pot makers, in this case, 赵松亭 (Zhao Song Ting), and Yan Ru often carved a poem that described the scenic graph on the pot, roughly translates as “something crystal clear and fantastic, flower shadow and coldness”.
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