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Re: 2019 from Wuyi Origin?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:41 am
by Bok
carogust wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:34 am
I do understand your point. I don't care that much to try the ultra ultra high end, just the normal high end. That will be good enough for me. I do think that the "low-end" of high end tea is available to the west, maybe with a bit of a premium. Maybe not the best but still good enough to get a good picture, even an approximate one.
And thanks for the vendor recommendation.
Seems a very reasonable expectation!

Re: 2019 from Wuyi Origin?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:18 am
by theredbaron
carogust wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 11:56 pm
theredbaron I don't honestly believe that you need to be in asia to drink amazing yancha. You just need to know where to look! Sure the selection might not be as great and you'll have to pay a bit of a resale premium but it doesn't seem that bad to me. As I said, the EoT yancha is supposedly traditionally roasted, oxidized and aged for 2-3 years before being sold. The roasting style is very different in that than in other yancha I've had. Considering how their gui dong keng TLH is made from top top material (mature 40 yo bushes and in one of the best locations) and handmade I bet that it is REALLY the top stuff.
I have received a lot of my Yancha previously, since the late 1990's, when i still lived in Asia, from the same source EoT got theirs later on, and this is indeed more than decent Yancha. But EoT hasn't offered Yancha for quite some time.
But i also got better Yancha, on occasion. You will not get this outside of Asia, and in Asia also only through friends and connections, especially when you do not want to pay an arm and a leg for it.
To drink amazing yancha, i am afraid, you will have to be in Asia, and also get to know people in tea circles.

The reason is because really good Yancha is only grown in a very small area, and therefore a very limited product, and at the same time a very high demand in Asia itself. There won't be anything for a western market which to the largest part would not be able to appreciate it.

Re: 2019 from Wuyi Origin?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:22 am
by theredbaron
Bok wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:27 pm

At least you can still find something similar to traditional Anxi TGY in Taiwan, where luckily no one would dare to process it green :mrgreen:

Interesting - while at the same time Anxi has almost completely changed to modern Taiwan style processing ;)

Re: 2019 from Wuyi Origin?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:12 pm
by Tillerman
theredbaron wrote:
Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:22 am
Bok wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:27 pm

At least you can still find something similar to traditional Anxi TGY in Taiwan, where luckily no one would dare to process it green :mrgreen:

Interesting - while at the same time Anxi has almost completely changed to modern Taiwan style processing ;)
Muzha TGY is classic high (generally higher than most Anxi TGY ever was) charcoal roasted tea. BEWARE, however, for much of what is sold as Muzha TGY is in fact qing xin harvested in the Pinglin area and finished in a TGY style. This is because the TGY leaf generally commands the highest prices in Taiwan. Choose your vendor carefully if you desire the real thing.

As to modern Anxi TGY, it may be produced by following the Taiwanese gaoshan lead but the leaf does not have the richness of high mountain Taiwanese leaf and the resulting tea, in my opinion, is just weedy and thin.

Re: 2019 from Wuyi Origin?

Posted: Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:47 am
by dyungim
Tillerman wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:01 pm
Brent D wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 6:21 pm
Always had great luck with their yanchas. Its my go to place for quality for the buck.
Anyone ever try their dancong?
The dancong are very good - perhaps not the very, very best - but very good. I have always avoided ya shi xiang until i tasted their single tree version - I was impressed.

Which ones did you try, and of the ones you tried, which would you say were roasted a long time at low temperature over charcoal fire and 60-75% oxidized, i.e. not green in character? @Tillerman

Re: 2019 from Wuyi Origin?

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 6:31 am
by Hengchan
Tetsubin wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:23 am
Their Boutique Tieluohan that they had this year is just outstanding. I am not very experienced with Yancha but my god that is a good tea. I do not need a better tea I just don't.
Tieluohan is in the basket - I am looking forward to it!!

Please any more recommendations? Their range is so huge

Re: 2019 from Wuyi Origin?

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:17 am
by Chadrinkincat
Hengchan wrote:
Mon Mar 02, 2020 6:31 am
Tetsubin wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:23 am
Their Boutique Tieluohan that they had this year is just outstanding. I am not very experienced with Yancha but my god that is a good tea. I do not need a better tea I just don't.
Tieluohan is in the basket - I am looking forward to it!!

Please any more recommendations? Their range is so huge
WO only has the regular TLH in stock now. The boutique stuff sells out quick.

I think the Jin mao hou is my favorite 2019 yancha from them. 2019: Rougui, TLH, LCSX and ban tian yao and the aged TLH

Re: 2019 from Wuyi Origin?

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:47 am
by Hengchan
Chadrinkincat wrote:
Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:17 am
Hengchan wrote:
Mon Mar 02, 2020 6:31 am
Tetsubin wrote:
Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:23 am
Their Boutique Tieluohan that they had this year is just outstanding. I am not very experienced with Yancha but my god that is a good tea. I do not need a better tea I just don't.
Tieluohan is in the basket - I am looking forward to it!!

Please any more recommendations? Their range is so huge
WO only has the regular TLH in stock now. The boutique stuff sells out quick.

I think the Jin mao hou is my favorite 2019 yancha from them. 2019: Rougui, TLH, LCSX and ban tian yao and the aged TLH
Oh right so the boutique is their top grade .

Ok nice I will include those
Thx!!

Re: 2019 from Wuyi Origin?

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:35 am
by Tetsubin
Hengchan wrote:
Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:47 am
Chadrinkincat wrote:
Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:17 am
Hengchan wrote:
Mon Mar 02, 2020 6:31 am


Tieluohan is in the basket - I am looking forward to it!!

Please any more recommendations? Their range is so huge
WO only has the regular TLH in stock now. The boutique stuff sells out quick.

I think the Jin mao hou is my favorite 2019 yancha from them. 2019: Rougui, TLH, LCSX and ban tian yao and the aged TLH
Oh right so the boutique is their top grade .

Ok nice I will include those
Thx!!
Unfortunately the 2019 boutique grades have already sold out. 2020, I would advise that you don't try to sample their boutique stuff, because by the time you get the sample they might already have sold out. So just make a decision if you want it or not and how much. I found the Boutique Rougui to be really good as well but in a different way then the TLH.

Re: 2019 from Wuyi Origin?

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:12 pm
by Hengchan
Good advice thanks!
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Re: 2019 from Wuyi Origin?

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:28 pm
by Chadrinkincat
@Hengchan

Worth the wait

Re: 2019 from Wuyi Origin?

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:30 pm
by dyungim
Anyone know which of their dancongs is "classic style" (熟香型) i.e. not greener taste/aroma?

And of this type, does anyone have any recommendations?