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karma
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Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:28 pm

Sad to hear of his personal reputation -- I'm quite the fan of his spring peacock cake atm for a cheap daily.
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Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:32 pm

.m. wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:25 am
LeoFox Bok
Maybe: 古川子老師 gǔchuān zi lǎoshī
https://web.archive.org/web/20040831092 ... r_list.php
Ah! If it’s that guy I’ve seen his works... pretty fugly if you ask me. If it were really as amazing with tea as Stephane claims he’d use it himself ;)
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Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:25 pm

Bok wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:32 pm
.m. wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:25 am
LeoFox Bok
Maybe: 古川子老師 gǔchuān zi lǎoshī
https://web.archive.org/web/20040831092 ... r_list.php
Ah! If it’s that guy I’ve seen his works... pretty fugly if you ask me. If it were really as amazing with tea as Stephane claims he’d use it himself ;)
Does look a bit strange
http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_6a4f16ab0100ldu4.html
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Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:57 pm

LeoFox wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:25 pm
Bok wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:32 pm
.m. wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:25 am
LeoFox Bok
Maybe: 古川子老師 gǔchuān zi lǎoshī
https://web.archive.org/web/20040831092 ... r_list.php
Ah! If it’s that guy I’ve seen his works... pretty fugly if you ask me. If it were really as amazing with tea as Stephane claims he’d use it himself ;)
Does look a bit strange
http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_6a4f16ab0100ldu4.html
Good lord!
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Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:27 pm

His stuff is expensive and in quite a few books, so it might well be this guy.

Once again, what is popular is not always good taste :)
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Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:02 am

Bok wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:32 pm
.m. wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:25 am
LeoFox Bok
Maybe: 古川子老師 gǔchuān zi lǎoshī
https://web.archive.org/web/20040831092 ... r_list.php
Ah! If it’s that guy I’ve seen his works... pretty fugly if you ask me.
Lol. My thoughts, but didn't want to say it loud. :lol:
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d.manuk
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Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:22 am

I've had a private tea session with Stephane when he was visiting NYC 2 or 3 years ago. He was very nice and had a specific brewing, storage, and consumption method for each of his teas.
I've met a lot of unpleasant (and quite frankly, crazy) people from the tea community, and he's definitely not one of them in my eyes.

I think his higher end teas are some of the best quality you can buy as a Westener without connections.
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Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:16 am

Shine Magical wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:22 am
I've had a private tea session with Stephane when he was visiting NYC 2 or 3 years ago. He was very nice and had a specific brewing, storage, and consumption method for each of his teas.
I've met a lot of unpleasant (and quite frankly, crazy) people from the tea community, and he's definitely not one of them in my eyes.

I think his higher end teas are some of the best quality you can buy as a Westener without connections.
That's good, we need more level headed people in the tea community. I've seen a few of his videos and they were very in depth.
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Baisao
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Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:17 am

Shine Magical wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:22 am
I think his higher end teas are some of the best quality you can buy as a Westener without connections.
I second this.
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Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:28 am

klepto wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:16 am
Shine Magical wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:22 am
I've had a private tea session with Stephane when he was visiting NYC 2 or 3 years ago. He was very nice and had a specific brewing, storage, and consumption method for each of his teas.
I've met a lot of unpleasant (and quite frankly, crazy) people from the tea community, and he's definitely not one of them in my eyes.

I think his higher end teas are some of the best quality you can buy as a Westener without connections.
That's good, we need more level headed people in the tea community. I've seen a few of his videos and they were very in depth.
His blogs are a good source of information on Taiwanese teas, sans woo.
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Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:58 pm

My first order from tea master came with a free sample of high mountain tea not from taiwan as described here:
http://teamasters.blogspot.com/2019/03/ ... m.html?m=1

I guess this is meant to show what faked taiwan gaoshan can taste like.

As expected the tea is disgusting. The first steeping had a buttery aroma and was somewhat drinkable. But it quickly became very sour and bitter - just plain nasty.
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Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:13 am

LeoFox wrote:
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As expected the tea is disgusting. The first steeping had a buttery aroma and was somewhat drinkable. But it quickly became very sour and bitter - just plain nasty.
As a note of caution – not always true. I just recently purchased some Thailand-grown white tea which was excellent, if not much better than a comparably priced fully Taiwanese tea.

There was a huge scandal a few years back, when it was revealed that Vietnam grown Dongding tea had made it into the competition – and won! So who's to tell, it's just names, good and bad tea can come from anywhere. I've been told that a lot of Puerh nowadays comes from the African continent (I kid you not).
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Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:31 am

I’ve had China bush hongcha from northern Thailand that was yummy. I’ve also had gaoshancha from Lishan (not an imposter) that was gawd awful.

I’ve experienced similar things with olive oils, sparkling wines, dog breeds, etc.

Contrary to what many say, location—pedigree, if you will— is no guarantee of exceptional quality.

There is perhaps a greater likelihood of getting an exceptional product from a location famous for producing xyz, but there are always exceptions.
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Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:42 am

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Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:31 am
There is perhaps a greater likelihood of getting an exceptional product from a location famous for producing xyz, but there are always exceptions.
Also on the note of Gaoshan, high altitude always being praised as being superior, that is also to be taken with a grain of salt... high altitude, also high likelihood a lot of things need to used to even make it possible to grow it there...

I know more and more people here, who actively avoid high mountain tea as it doesn't fulfil their demands of being "clean." Most of what I drink now is grown at much lower altitudes.
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Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:05 am

Bok wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:13 am
LeoFox wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:58 pm
As expected the tea is disgusting. The first steeping had a buttery aroma and was somewhat drinkable. But it quickly became very sour and bitter - just plain nasty.
As a note of caution – not always true. I just recently purchased some Thailand-grown white tea which was excellent, if not much better than a comparably priced fully Taiwanese tea.

There was a huge scandal a few years back, when it was revealed that Vietnam grown Dongding tea had made it into the competition – and won! So who's to tell, it's just names, good and bad tea can come from anywhere. I've been told that a lot of Puerh nowadays comes from the African continent (I kid you not).
I meant "as expected" for a sample that seemed to be an obvious marketing gimmick as an example of bad tea.

Very interesting to hear about the dong ding incident. When you say higher elevation can be dirty, what are farmers using?
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