What's in Lipton Teabags??

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Tue May 28, 2019 9:05 am

I think it’s more a question of dosage, rather than kind of black tea.

If you are in for the caffeine, something completely different are Taiwanese high mountain Oolongs, some of them keep me up all night if I drink them too late...

But as a current black tea drinker, if I were to suggest alternatives, I would try some roasted Oolong teas for example.

Be careful though, once you go down the rabbit hole...
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Tue May 28, 2019 9:40 am

You may like an Assam CTC
"CTC tea actually refers to a method of processing black tea. Named for the process, "crush, tear, curl" (and sometimes called "cut, tear, curl")."
Rich, strong and because the tea doesn't really expand, any teaball or cotton bag is fine to steep with.
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Tue May 28, 2019 1:48 pm

@sizmo we all have different constitutions so I can only speak for myself (though maybe it would apply to you) but "India bush" teas give me the jitters worse than coffee. This tea is typically what is grown in India, Sri Lanka, and Africa. Black teas made from "China bush" do not give me the jitters despite having caffeine. "China bush" teas are generally grown in China, Taiwan, Japan.

So for example, an assam will give me jitters but a keemum will not, though both keep me alert.
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Wed May 29, 2019 1:35 pm

@Baisao @Bok @rdl

Would you believe that after alot of research, i discovered what i think MIGHT be the standing-out factor with Lipton...
apparently the black tea in their bags is mainly 'Orange Pekoe and Pekoe cut black tea'.

So i went to a tea shop earlier and managed to find 'Basilur 100% pure Ceylon Black Tea - Orange Pekoe'. and guess what? When i brewed it, i felt just as alert and revitalized as the Lipton brings about.

I've tried a few other black tea bags, and i highly doubt this is a Placebo!

Let me know what you guys think :)
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Wed May 29, 2019 1:38 pm

@Baisao @rdl @Bok

I also found this diagram showing how tea is graded. How accurate would you guys say this is??

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Wed May 29, 2019 3:13 pm

sizmo wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 1:38 pm
I also found this diagram showing how tea is graded. How accurate would you guys say this is??
Most western style black teas have leaves chopped in small pieces, which makes it hard to say wheat kind of leaves went in. Anyway, they are all marked as "xyz orange pekoe" because why would anybody mark their teas as a lower grade than that. In the end Orange pekoe simply stands for a mix of a loose leaf black teas from somewhere sold in a grocery store. Any middle eastern/arabian grocery will probably have a good selection of them. "Ahmad Tea" is a reliable brand producing teas in this style. Also "Twinings", but you'll pay some premium for the queen's endorsment of the brand and the cute little can.
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Wed May 29, 2019 3:23 pm

Btw. next time you go to a tea shop, you may as well give a try to some chinese loose leaf black tea to see how you'll feel about it. It may not hit you as hard, but it may have a nice taste or something. ;)
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Wed May 29, 2019 3:34 pm

sizmo wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 1:38 pm

I also found this diagram showing how tea is graded. How accurate would you guys say this is??
Of course then you have all the grade variations such as

OP: Orange Pekoe

FOP: Flowery Orange Pekoe

GFOP: Golden Flowery Orange Pekoe

TGFOP: Tippy Golden Flowery Orange Pekoe

TGFOP 1: Tippy Golden Flowery Orange Pekoe One

FTGFOP: Finest Tippy Golden Flowery Orange Pekoe

FTGFOP 1: Finest Tippy Golden Flowery Orange Pekoe One

SFTGFOP: Special Finest Tippy Golden Flowery Orange Pekoe

SFTGFOP 1: Special Finest Tippy Golden Flowery Orange Pekoe One

For broken leaves, the letter “B” is added to the name as in BOP (Broken Orange Pekoe), FBOP, GBOP, TGBOP, etc.

For smaller grades used in teabags, fannings and dust grades are used, for example: OF, OPF, FBOPF, FD, GD.
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Wed May 29, 2019 4:17 pm

.m. wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 3:13 pm
middle eastern/arabian grocery will probably have a good selection of them. "Ahmad Tea" is a reliable brand producing teas in this style.
I was trying to remember Ahmad Tea when thinking about this thread. I drank a lot of Ahmad's teas when first venturing away from teabags, especially Assam. Sold at Russian stores in Boston area also.
If one wants to sample with small amounts, turning to Upton Tea might be wise.
sizmo, Amazon also sells regular empty teabags. You can also buy silicon teabag holders in which you can "hide" double-bagging.

I just prepared a cup using aTrader Joe's Irish Breakfast teabag. Hated it, even with milk. Without some fruit jam in the cup to carry it, I can't enjoy it. Makes me think I need to sample some Ruby Jade 18s and 21s from Taiwan again to get some Assam flavor tempered by other flavors.

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Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:11 pm

Im not joking when I say this as I have a family friend whose tea factory supplies to Liptons.

its mostly very low grade Sri-Lankan black tea. Basically the equivilent of dirt.
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Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:32 pm

L.S.G.artapprentice wrote:
Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:11 pm
Im not joking when I say this as I have a family friend whose tea factory supplies to Liptons.

its mostly very low grade Sri-Lankan black tea. Basically the equivilent of dirt.
But but but it’s orange pekoe dirt!
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Baisao wrote:
Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:32 pm
L.S.G.artapprentice wrote:
Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:11 pm
Im not joking when I say this as I have a family friend whose tea factory supplies to Liptons.

its mostly very low grade Sri-Lankan black tea. Basically the equivilent of dirt.
But but but it’s orange pekoe dirt!
thats orange peoke FANNINGS you you you peasent you :lol:
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