Muzha TGY cultivar

Semi-oxidized tea
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wildisthewind wrote:
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Taste wise - a roasted Jin Xuan will be very different than a roasted TGY right?
True TGY varietal plants are less common, so more expensive. TGY-style teas are often made from non-TGY cultivars, though Si Ji Chun is more common than Jin Xuan because it's related to the original TGY plants genetically. They can still be great teas, but it's true they will taste very different than a real TGY, which roasted is very savory & nutty, with a slight sourness to it. Expect a fruitier tasting tea from Jin Xuan or Si Ji Chun TGY-style.
Thanks! I guess that explains the price. I usually pay for Muzha TGY like I pay for Lishan and this one was 30% less
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wildisthewind wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:13 pm
ShuShu wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:24 am
ShuShu wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:22 am
Taste wise - a roasted Jin Xuan will be very different than a roasted TGY right?
True TGY varietal plants are less common, so more expensive. TGY-style teas are often made from non-TGY cultivars, though Si Ji Chun is more common than Jin Xuan because it's related to the original TGY plants genetically. They can still be great teas, but it's true they will taste very different than a real TGY, which roasted is very savory & nutty, with a slight sourness to it. Expect a fruitier tasting tea from Jin Xuan or Si Ji Chun TGY-style.
That also explains why the TW TGY I get is sweet and fruity! Entirely different from the roasted Anxi TGYs I drink and sell! Thanks for the info!
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Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:37 am

For anyone who might care, the true full name of the cultivar we call Tie Guan Yin as used in Muzha is: "Hong Xin Wai Wei Tao"
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Seems like blending is a thing too:

https://taiwanoolongs.com/products/bron ... pring-2015
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tealifehk wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:00 am
wildisthewind wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:13 pm
ShuShu wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:24 am


Taste wise - a roasted Jin Xuan will be very different than a roasted TGY right?
True TGY varietal plants are less common, so more expensive. TGY-style teas are often made from non-TGY cultivars, though Si Ji Chun is more common than Jin Xuan because it's related to the original TGY plants genetically. They can still be great teas, but it's true they will taste very different than a real TGY, which roasted is very savory & nutty, with a slight sourness to it. Expect a fruitier tasting tea from Jin Xuan or Si Ji Chun TGY-style.
That also explains why the TW TGY I get is sweet and fruity! Entirely different from the roasted Anxi TGYs I drink and sell! Thanks for the info!
No problem! I actually really like those Jin Xuan/Si Ji Chun TGY, maybe even a bit more than the "authentic" varietal. If you're looking to drink some of the TGY varietal, try any of these:

https://taiwanoolongs.com/products/silv ... inter-2015
https://thejadeleaf.com/collections/ool ... e-guan-yin
http://www.globalteahut.org/tieguanyin.html

These are probably also all TGY varietal, but look like they may be roasted a bit less than the more traditional, savory ones above:

https://www.taiwanteacrafts.com/product ... olong-tea/
https://floatingleaves.com/collections/ ... ie-guanyin
https://floatingleaves.com/collections/ ... ie-guanyin

I'd go with the Taiwan Sourcing or Jade Leaf for a reference point.
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Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:19 am

I have had (and enjoyed) the muzha from Hojo. Not sure what varietal that is though.
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wildisthewind wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:24 pm
tealifehk wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:00 am
wildisthewind wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:13 pm


True TGY varietal plants are less common, so more expensive. TGY-style teas are often made from non-TGY cultivars, though Si Ji Chun is more common than Jin Xuan because it's related to the original TGY plants genetically. They can still be great teas, but it's true they will taste very different than a real TGY, which roasted is very savory & nutty, with a slight sourness to it. Expect a fruitier tasting tea from Jin Xuan or Si Ji Chun TGY-style.
That also explains why the TW TGY I get is sweet and fruity! Entirely different from the roasted Anxi TGYs I drink and sell! Thanks for the info!
No problem! I actually really like those Jin Xuan/Si Ji Chun TGY, maybe even a bit more than the "authentic" varietal. If you're looking to drink some of the TGY varietal, try any of these:

https://taiwanoolongs.com/products/silv ... inter-2015
https://thejadeleaf.com/collections/ool ... e-guan-yin
http://www.globalteahut.org/tieguanyin.html

These are probably also all TGY varietal, but look like they may be roasted a bit less than the more traditional, savory ones above:

https://www.taiwanteacrafts.com/product ... olong-tea/
https://floatingleaves.com/collections/ ... ie-guanyin
https://floatingleaves.com/collections/ ... ie-guanyin

I'd go with the Taiwan Sourcing or Jade Leaf for a reference point.
Thanks, but I have only bought Taiwanese tea once from HY Chen--since I'm 90 minutes by air from Taiwan, I do most of my Taiwanese tea shopping in person! I do have some fairly good high roast TGY from a few years ago; also quite different from the Mainland kind but very obviously TGY from the flavor profile!
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Henk wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:19 am
I have had (and enjoyed) the muzha from Hojo. Not sure what varietal that is though.
ALL authentic Muzha Tieguanyin is produced from the Hong Xin Wai Wei Tao cultivar (commonly called Tieguanyin) and none other. Teas produced from Jin Xuan or Si Ji Chun, for example, may be, and often are, delicious - but they aren't Muzha TGY no matter how any particular vendor may try to baptize them.
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