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Oriental beauty - production

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:33 am
by aet
From wiki I'm reading quite unique way this tea is made. From what I understand ,it requires some bug called Jacobiasca formosana being around and this buddy likes only certain environment ( hot & high humidity ..if I got it right ? ) , so can not be on any tea mountain.
I was wondering , what is the other way this tea is produced?
If used chemicals, which ones then? How they are applied? In which part / step of processing and how exactly? Those details I believe are " know how " of producers , yet I'm trying my luck here , if anybody can throw some intel.

How to test ( except the lab test ) if tea is made by the original way or the chemical way?

Re: Oriental beauty - production

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:50 am
by Bok
I don’t have specifics but as far as I understand it, bug biting can happen with any tea in Taiwan as it’s hot and humid everywhere- except the very high mountain teas.

Wild and organic teas will usually also have it to some degree. It’s basically if you don’t do anything with pesticides it can happen.

Re: Oriental beauty - production

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:33 am
by LeoFox

Re: Oriental beauty - production

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:28 pm
by aet
LeoFox wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:33 am
viewtopic.php?p=33788#p33788
good one, thank you!

Re: Oriental beauty - production

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:46 am
by Tillerman
Bok wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:50 am
I don’t have specifics but as far as I understand it, bug biting can happen with any tea in Taiwan as it’s hot and humid everywhere- except the very high mountain teas.
With climate change, these teas are seen at higher and higher elevations, alas.

Re: Oriental beauty - production

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:50 am
by Bok
Tillerman wrote:
Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:46 am
Bok wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:50 am
I don’t have specifics but as far as I understand it, bug biting can happen with any tea in Taiwan as it’s hot and humid everywhere- except the very high mountain teas.
With climate change, these teas are seen at higher and higher elevations, alas.
Oh that is something to consider... soon it will be only hongcha at DYL and no more tea below, then no tea at all and we close the chapter on this round of species. Enjoy it while it lasts guys!

Re: Oriental beauty - production

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:33 pm
by Andrew S
If climate change is affecting the bugs negatively, then surely this is just the beginning of rapid growth in the market for aged oriental beauty, especially from cooler vintages...

Like with closed distilleries in the world of whisky; it'll be tea from a 'closed' species.

Andrew

Re: Oriental beauty - production

Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:40 pm
by Bok
Andrew S wrote:
Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:33 pm
If climate change is affecting the bugs negatively, then surely this is just the beginning of rapid growth in the market for aged oriental beauty, especially from cooler vintages...

Like with closed distilleries in the world of whisky; it'll be tea from a 'closed' species.

Andrew
I think the bugs will do just fine and survive us for a while…