What Green Are You Drinking

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Léon
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Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:28 pm

What's TPHK, please?
GaoShan
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Tue Jun 11, 2024 5:25 pm

Léon wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:28 pm
What's TPHK, please?
It's Tai Ping Hou Kui. The huge flat leaves look cool, but I don't have any experience brewing them. They wouldn't fit in any of my teapots!
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Wed Jun 12, 2024 4:13 am

GaoShan wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 5:25 pm
It's Tai Ping Hou Kui. The huge flat leaves look cool, but I don't have any experience brewing them. They wouldn't fit in any of my teapots!
I think it tastes best when you just put a generous bunch of leaves in a mug or glass. The large leaves are easy to evade when drinking & it doesn't get too strong while you wait for it to cool, since it's kinda subtle, but it can be very nice. (You may get up to a few tasty refills; some people say it's best to refill while half-full or so but I didn't notice that much of a difference--if anything, I think I prefer drinking it dry before refilling, YMMV.)

I'm curious how YC's TPHK compares to more expensive offerings from Hojo, Sazen, etc. The green looks kinda dull in the pictures, but that may be just camera/lighting. Even if it's less vibrant but similar in taste, it'd be an exceptional deal.

vendr name of tea----- code-- pack shp ccy USD--- $/g
YunCr Tai Ping Hou Kui G026-- 100g $ 19.20 $19.20 $0.19
Hojo- Taiping Hou Kui- G07C-- 090g ¥ 9,800 $62.30 $0.69
Hojo- TPHK Spec Trib-- G10C-- 090g ¥12,600 $80.10 $0.89
Sazen TPHK 2023 clrnce TCH078 010g ¥ 1,080 $ 6.87 $0.69
Sazen Tai Ping Hou Kui TCH091 010g ¥ 2,700 $17.16 $1.72


Note: Sazen only sell 10g packs (make sure to switch to JPY pricing, if shopping there, to get better prices).
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Wed Jun 12, 2024 11:06 am

teatray wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2024 4:13 am
GaoShan wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 5:25 pm
It's Tai Ping Hou Kui. The huge flat leaves look cool, but I don't have any experience brewing them. They wouldn't fit in any of my teapots!
I think it tastes best when you just put a generous bunch of leaves in a mug or glass. The large leaves are easy to evade when drinking & it doesn't get too strong while you wait for it to cool, since it's kinda subtle, but it can be very nice. (You may get up to a few tasty refills; some people say it's best to refill while half-full or so but I didn't notice that much of a difference--if anything, I think I prefer drinking it dry before refilling, YMMV.)

I'm curious how YC's TPHK compares to more expensive offerings from Hojo, Sazen, etc. The green looks kinda dull in the pictures, but that may be just camera/lighting. Even if it's less vibrant but similar in taste, it'd be an exceptional deal.

vendr name of tea----- code-- pack shp ccy USD--- $/g
YunCr Tai Ping Hou Kui G026-- 100g $ 19.20 $19.20 $0.19
Hojo- Taiping Hou Kui- G07C-- 090g ¥ 9,800 $62.30 $0.69
Hojo- TPHK Spec Trib-- G10C-- 090g ¥12,600 $80.10 $0.89
Sazen TPHK 2023 clrnce TCH078 010g ¥ 1,080 $ 6.87 $0.69
Sazen Tai Ping Hou Kui TCH091 010g ¥ 2,700 $17.16 $1.72


Note: Sazen only sell 10g packs (make sure to switch to JPY pricing, if shopping there, to get better prices).
Thanks for the tip! Mug brewing can produce surprisingly nice green tea.

I haven't had any green teas from YC that weren't from Yunnan. I had a Huo Shan Huang Ya last year that was nice, maybe a little better than the one from Teavivre. I'd say YC is a pretty good vendor and it might be worth a try if you like TPHK. I'm restraining myself from buying their sun-dried Anji Bai Cha black tea.
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Wed Jun 19, 2024 6:32 pm

once just for kicks I infused some TPHK in this mini teapot
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I poured in the hot water and as the leaves softened, I pushed them down until they were completely submerged. It worked, I was fun and delicious but obviously not the most practical thing for making this tea every day. It's definitely not very difficult To work with this stuff in smaller or shallow brewing vessels, you just have to push it in gently as it wets… or break the leaves.
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Wed Jun 19, 2024 9:05 pm

For the last of my 2023 sencha I am enjoying the predecessor to many of the oddities of Japanese tea that I so often enjoy, Shizu Inzatsu 131 sencha ffom Tenryu in Shizuoka. It is a sencha that is very unique with a strong floral aroma. I've had its two children from its crossing with Yabukita, Fuji-kaori (which makes a better kamairicha than sencha imo) and Sofu and while both may be better, this teas unique characteristics shine through stronger, with the caveat of having the negative aspects of such teas in full force. For such reasons I found that reduction clay worked best as it rounded out any harshness while preserving the positive aspects I enjoy. In my mumyoi it was too harsh, though I'll play around with parameters to see if I can make it work since I think if tuned right it can provide some interesting results.
I will be sure to try the nearai this year as well.
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Thu Jun 20, 2024 1:40 pm

debunix wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2024 6:32 pm
… or break the leaves.
LOL, that made me wince! I'm not sure I could do that, but I have a sample of TPHK on the way and I might try steeping it in a shallow cup.
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Thu Jul 04, 2024 5:47 pm

Masterjeff wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2024 9:05 pm
Fuji-kaori (which makes a better kamairicha than sencha imo)
Delicious Fuji-kaori kamairicha from Fujieda. Wonderful tea combining all the unique characteristics of Fuji-kaori as a cultivar with the roasted nutty profile of kamairicha, and without the bitterness I found in the sencha of the same cultivar. It also fulfills my craving for Chinese greens for the time being (I already have too many greens coming this year to order any more :mrgreen:).
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Thu Jul 04, 2024 7:03 pm

Today I tried a sample of Cha Wang Tai Ping Hou Kui from Teavivre. They recommended using 10 to 15 pieces in 250 ml of water, and to avoid bitterness, I conservatively steeped 11 pieces at 185F starting at 4 minutes. I needn't have worried, as the taste was very subtle and bitterness was nonexistent. The first steeps had lots of sweetness, orchid florals, minerality, and some beany/vegetal notes. Later steeps were more vegetal and mineral, though the florals were still evident. I can't stress enough how subtle this tea is, perhaps a bit too subtle for my palate. I have about 7 grams of this tea left, so I'll be experimenting with more leaves to see if I can make the flavour of this tea more pronounced.
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