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by faj
Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:59 pm
Forum: Green Tea
Topic: Sencha: what water temp do you use for the second cup?
Replies: 46
Views: 2530

Re: Sencha: what water temp do you use for the second cup?

I was astonished by how far off my actual parameters were from what I thought I was doing! The leaves reacts to the actual temperature, not the imagined one. As long as you are reliably getting the results you are looking for, it does not really matter that you understand why your method works. As ...
by faj
Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:18 pm
Forum: Green Tea
Topic: Sencha: what water temp do you use for the second cup?
Replies: 46
Views: 2530

Re: Sencha: what water temp do you use for the second cup?

If you aim the laser at the lowest point of the inside wall and gradually move up along its wall, you’ll see that the temp will be gradually higher too. Good point. I aimed the laser various ways and could not get a reading that felt right. I did not specifically try to do what you suggest (will tr...
by faj
Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:22 pm
Forum: Green Tea
Topic: Sencha: what water temp do you use for the second cup?
Replies: 46
Views: 2530

Re: Sencha: what water temp do you use for the second cup?

1) my water temps are way cooler according to this IR thermometer than I ever thought so I may not be a good candidate for testing. I have a variable temperature kettle and a decent probe thermometer, so in my case I know the IR thermometer was reading too low when aimed at the water. Maybe your wa...
by faj
Sat Jan 25, 2020 12:54 pm
Forum: Green Tea
Topic: Sencha: what water temp do you use for the second cup?
Replies: 46
Views: 2530

Re: Sencha: what water temp do you use for the second cup?

The thermal inertia of wet leaves is something I’ve never thought to care about with Japanese teas but perhaps I should since the temp drop can be significant. For a while, I have had a hunch that increasing the temperature to "extract more" in later steeps as many people do actually mostly achieve...
by faj
Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:57 am
Forum: Green Tea
Topic: Sencha: what water temp do you use for the second cup?
Replies: 46
Views: 2530

Re: Sencha: what water temp do you use for the second cup?

Question, what water to leaf ratio are you guys using with the stated time and temperature? I typically use about 0.5g per oz of water. I typically use 4g for about 100ml. This is what I used for the temperature tests above. Many would use more leaf than that, in which case the temperature drop due...
by faj
Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:53 am
Forum: Green Tea
Topic: Sencha: what water temp do you use for the second cup?
Replies: 46
Views: 2530

Re: Sencha: what water temp do you use for the second cup?

As an aside, I did a quick comparison of readings from an IR thermometer and a standard probe thermometer which I trust to be relatively accurate. Properly aimed (I have a converging lasers model that helps with that), the IR thermometer read about 7C to 10C lower than the probe thermometer. Maybe t...
by faj
Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:13 am
Forum: Green Tea
Topic: Sencha: what water temp do you use for the second cup?
Replies: 46
Views: 2530

Re: Sencha: what water temp do you use for the second cup?

I did one more test, where I put the thermometer tip in the teapot at the time of pouring on fully-expanded, cooled leaves. Water temperature at 72C. Although my thermometer reacts quite fast to temperature changes, at no time did I see temperatures above about 62. It is as though the water was bein...
by faj
Sat Jan 25, 2020 7:50 am
Forum: Green Tea
Topic: Sencha: what water temp do you use for the second cup?
Replies: 46
Views: 2530

Re: Sencha: what water temp do you use for the second cup?

I’ll take some notes using an IR thermometer. I have a hunch you are correct. Regardless of why, it works for me. Also, this is essentially the way Florent, of Thés du Japon, does it. I just infused a sencha from Thés du Japon, which I also drank yesterday. Comparing first infusions, yesterday I in...
by faj
Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:09 pm
Forum: Green Tea
Topic: Sencha: what water temp do you use for the second cup?
Replies: 46
Views: 2530

Re: Sencha: what water temp do you use for the second cup?

3-4 min between steeps, if I had to guess. I'll take a temp tomorrow though because I am now curious. It is common for people to increase the temperature for later steeps, which is sometimes referred to as a way to "extract more". I would be curious to measure the actual temperature of the water af...
by faj
Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:23 pm
Forum: Green Tea
Topic: Sencha: what water temp do you use for the second cup?
Replies: 46
Views: 2530

Re: Sencha: what water temp do you use for the second cup?

Baisao wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:37 pm
Hi faj, I do not preheat the kyusu for sencha, kama-iri, bancha, or gyokuro (it was not advised to me).
For these Japanese teas, do you make further infusions very quickly, or do the kyusu and leaves have time to cool down between infusions?
by faj
Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:38 pm
Forum: Green Tea
Topic: Sencha: what water temp do you use for the second cup?
Replies: 46
Views: 2530

Re: Sencha: what water temp do you use for the second cup?

One thing I would be curious about is whether you preheat your teapot or not with these parameters. My habit is preheating the teapot, and I have often found the first infusion to lose aromatics at the expense of bitterness with the typical 60s first infusion often recommended, even at temperatures ...
by faj
Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:29 pm
Forum: China & Taiwan
Topic: Yixing
Replies: 658
Views: 70135

Re: Yixing

Sure there are rare sub sub types of clay, but you should think of them more like rare and legendary skins in Fortnite or something As a father of three teenagers, that one made me laugh out loud in my office. I will let them know legendary clays and mythical teas are discussed here : who knows, th...
by faj
Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:28 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Water Water Everywhere... What’s Your Water?
Replies: 211
Views: 30081

Re: Water Water Everywhere... What’s Your Water?

likely because it is cheaper... most long-mid term stupid decisions boil down to a preference of short term personal gain over sustainable gain for everyone. It is true that organizations will sometimes take shortcuts to increase profit. Crime pays when you do not get caught, and one company being ...
by faj
Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:24 am
Forum: White Tea
Topic: Best Pot for Aged White Tea
Replies: 11
Views: 209

Re: Best Pot for Aged White Tea

The idea is that once preheated – which, of course, is necessary to mitigate what you describe – a thicker walled pot will sustain a higher temperature for longer Given two vessels of the same shape, volume and material that differ in thickness only, a thicker material means more insulation, and mo...
by faj
Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:43 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Reflecting on my first several weeks of my new tea life adventure
Replies: 19
Views: 392

Re: Reflecting on my first several weeks of my new tea life adventure

Sencha in particular is a terrible first-timer-tea. I do remember browsing the China town tins of greens and oolongs a long, long time ago. Not to forget the ubiquitous Jasmine tea! If I think how much I consumed of super market Longjing and Jasmine tea, I find it a wonder my stomach is still intac...